So is Lebrons dominance in this era = Russell in the 60s?

[ISHGoat]

I mean, we all see the haters discrediting his conference, etc.

Back when Russell played, there were even less teams than in the EC, so when Russell wins a chip, it's basically like winning 2/3 rounds (first round bye lol), which lebron has just done for the 5th consecutive time, in pretty convincing fashion.

Does this mean that lebron, relative to his conference and peers, Is as dominant and impactful as Russell was in the 60s?

[sportjames23]

Um, nope. Because, even though there were less teams back then, at least Russell DID dominate.

I mean, 11/13 vs 2/5. Really?

C'mon, son.

[keep-itreal]

Um, nope. Because, even though there were less teams back then, at least Russell DID dominate.

I mean, 11/13 vs 2/5. Really?

C'mon, son.

/thread

[Dresta]

The man has won 2 titles.

[dynasty1978]

11 seasons, 2 championships.

So no, not even close to the dominance of Russell.

Or Jordan.
Or Magic.
Or Duncan......and so on

[ISHGoat]

Um, nope. Because, even though there were less teams back then, at least Russell DID dominate.

I mean, 11/13 vs 2/5. Really?

C'mon, son.

The point is that winning the finals back then is equivalent to winning your conference today, due to the amount of teams and rounds of playoffs you had to go through. Lebron is like 6/7 in the conference finals, which is pretty dominant

[Dresta]

The point is that winning the finals back then is equivalent to winning your conference today, due to the amount of teams and rounds of playoffs you had to go through. Lebron is like 6/7 in the conference finals, which is pretty dominant

No it isn't. Has nothing to do with the overall number of teams, and everything to do with the respective talent pools (and most of the league's talent right now is in the opposite conference to Bron). Russell massacred his competition, Bron has had very little of that in the East, and he's only 2 for 5 in the finals (with two god-awful performances to boot).

[ISHGoat]

No it isn't. Has nothing to do with the overall number of teams, and everything to do with the respective talent pools (and most of the league's talent right now is in the opposite conference to Bron). Russell massacred his competition, Bron has had very little of that in the East, and he's only 2 for 5 in the finals (with two god-awful performances to boot).

sounds like what would happen to russell if he had to play a fourth round, which he never had to do

[Magic 32]

I mean, we all see the haters discrediting his conference, etc.

Back when Russell played, there were even less teams than in the EC, so when Russell wins a chip, it's basically like winning 2/3 rounds (first round bye lol), which lebron has just done for the 5th consecutive time, in pretty convincing fashion.

Does this mean that lebron, relative to his conference and peers, Is as dominant and impactful as Russell was in the 60s?

I think Russell also won the finals.

[Dresta]

sounds like what would happen to russell if he had to play a fourth round, which he never had to do

No, it sounds like you've got some kind of brain damage (seriously).

[Marchesk]

Russell's team was busy keeping Wilt's team out of the finals. That would be like Lebron's team keeping Jordan's team out. Russell had to contend with the most dominant player of his era, and maybe all-time. Who has Lebron had to contend with on that kind of level? Duncan is the only one that comes to mind, and that's in the finals.

[SexSymbol]

When there's less teams the talent is not spred thin like today. Imagine if there were 8-12 teams today, you'd have some teams with rosters like
PG - Westbrook
SG - Kobe
SF - Durant
PF - Love
C - Gasol
And it would be very normal.
It was harder to get to the finals back them, then it is now, especially in the joke of a conference that is the east

[ISHGoat]

When there's less teams the talent is not spred thin like today. Imagine if there were 8-12 teams today, you'd have some teams with rosters like
PG - Westbrook
SG - Kobe
SF - Durant
PF - Love
C - Gasol
And it would be very normal.
It was harder to get to the finals back them, then it is now, especially in the joke of a conference that is the east

More like
PG - 5'10 australian guy (real job: accountant)
SG - 6'0 thug (real job: drug dealer)
SF - 6'3 black guy with flat top hair (2 felonies)
PF - 6'6 canadian guy (sucked so bad he switched shooting hands)
C - top 5 goat

sound familiar?

[BigTicket]

Russell had an incredible run obviously, but he also played on the most stacked teams of all time.

If you look at Russell as an individual, does anyone believe he was better than Duncan or Hakeem ?

[Marchesk]

More like
PG - 5'10 australian guy (real job: accountant)
SG - 6'0 thug (real job: drug dealer)
SF - 6'2 black guy (2 felonies)
PF - 6'6 canadian guy
C - Russell

1961/62 Roster:

PG - 6'1 Bob Cousy
SG - 6'4 Sam Jones
SF - 6'6 Tom Sanders
PF - 6'7 Tom Heinson
C - 6'10 Bill Russell
6th Man - 6'5 Havliceck