Kawhi Leonard vs Scottie Pippen

[bizil]

Easily Pip! Until Bron came around, Pippen was the most complete SF of all time. Pip revolutionized the SF position in an epic way. At 6'8, he combined Hondo's attributes with Dr. J's athletic ability.

[Dragonyeuw]

Way too soon for such a comparison, we don't know how much better Leonard will get. Defensively is the only way they can be reasonably compared at this point, otherwise Scottie is in a whole nother category as a facilitator. Have we forgotten than Pip was pretty much setting up the triangle in his prime, allowing MJ to play more off-ball? Kawhi has yet to demonstrate ballhandling, decision-making or open court prowess on prime Pip's level.

[Lebron23]

Not in the same tier as Scottie Pippen. You need to compare Kaway Leonard to Cedric Maxwell.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...maxwece01.html

[Harison]

Prime Pippen was obviously better than current Kiwi, but there is a catch - we havent seen prime Kiwi yet. In 2-3 years he just might be as good as prime Pippen, and who knows - maybe even slightly better.

[ClipperRevival]

Not in the same tier as Scottie Pippen. You need to compare Kaway Leonard to Cedric Maxwell.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...maxwece01.html

I had no idea Maxwell had a fmvp on his resume until now.

[Spurs5Rings2014]

Prime Pippen was obviously better than current Kiwi, but there is a catch - we havent seen prime Kiwi yet. In 2-3 years he just might be as good as prime Pippen, and who knows - maybe even slightly better.

Not even athletic peak yet and Pippen stans already saying the young 23 year old and prime Pip have equal athleticism.

[Smoke117]

Scottie Pippen in the 1990 season is better than Kawhi Leonard right now. People want to throw out that Leonard is a superstar? Well if he is, then Scottie was one for a good 10 year period. It's hilarious and pathetic how a guy like Leonard is revered now, while a superior player like Pippen never got any love when he was playing.

These days we revere the team player, anti "hero ball" player while crucifying the opposite. A ppor mans Pippen gets his dick sucked off at every opportunity for it now.

[bizil]

Pip was just a scoring tweak away from being the GOAT SF at one point in time! When u factor in six rings, two gold medals, and redefining the SF position, I think that's CLEARLY an argument to make. He was a great passer, great defender, and great rebounder at the SF. Scoring wise, he was very good as well. So for Leonard to get on that level, he has MAJOR WORK to do.

While Pip was a point forward, Leonard is more old school-prototypical SF. Obviously he's a great defender. And very good-great rebounding SF too. The next step is getting his scoring to alpha dog level ability. If he doesn't, he will be more similar to a Shawn Marion level SF. Which isn't a bad thing at all.

But if he can get to alpha level ability, it will take him to another level. With those big hands and freak athletic ability, he reminds me of Dr.J at times. If he can do it more consistently, he could become TRULY one of the best two way SF's of all time. I'm not looking for him to be a point forward like Pippen.

Guys like Pip, Bron, and G Hill are a rare breed. That kind of versatility doesn't grow on trees. Leonard would really have to be like a Dr. J scoring the rock to even have a chance to eclipse Pippen.

[VengefulAngel]

Just about everyone in this thread has answered properly, so I won't bother.

But here's a question

Is there anything that Leonard does better than prime Pippen?

Shoot 3s.

[sportjames23]

Who you got? I'll go with Leonard. Kawhi is the better scorer, rebounder and more clutch(FMVP against Bran). Defense is roughly equal. Scottie does have a slight edge as a playmaker tho. Thoughts?

When'd you start watching the NBA?

[Angel Face]

[Paul George 24]

Not even athletic peak yet and Pippen stans already saying the young 23 year old and prime Pip have equal athleticism.

HE COST DUNCAN ANOTHER RINGS AGAIN

[Round Mound]

Pip was just a scoring tweak away from being the GOAT SF at one point in time! When u factor in six rings, two gold medals, and redefining the SF position, I think that's CLEARLY an argument to make. He was a great passer, great defender, and great rebounder at the SF. Scoring wise, he was very good as well. So for Leonard to get on that level, he has MAJOR WORK to do.

While Pip was a point forward, Leonard is more old school-prototypical SF. Obviously he's a great defender. And very good-great rebounding SF too. The next step is getting his scoring to alpha dog level ability. If he doesn't, he will be more similar to a Shawn Marion level SF. Which isn't a bad thing at all.

But if he can get to alpha level ability, it will take him to another level. With those big hands and freak athletic ability, he reminds me of Dr.J at times. If he can do it more consistently, he could become TRULY one of the best two way SF's of all time. I'm not looking for him to be a point forward like Pippen.

Guys like Pip, Bron, and G Hill are a rare breed. That kind of versatility doesn't grow on trees. Leonard would really have to be like a Dr. J scoring the rock to even have a chance to eclipse Pippen.

[3ball]

Guys like Pip, Bron, and G Hill are a rare breed. That kind of versatility doesn't grow on trees.

That sounds nice and everything - kumbaya - but the reality is that none of those guys ever got 30/9/11 over 24 games at point guard, including a stretch of 10 triple doubles in 11 games.

Also, none of those guys got MJ's playoffs of Finals assist averages (which were higher thru age 30) while playing off-ball.
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[SourSamCassell]

Easily Pippen IMO