Be honest, Do you know that 5 secs reset during jump ball exists?

[comerb]

It's penalizing the defensive team for having a good defense that melted that 24 seconds shot clock. How is it a good rule? Shot clock should have remained as is.

I just explained why. Throwing up a tip and having the shot clock expire immediately would be stupid.

[ihoopallday]

If you're an NBA player, you should know the rule. Lol I sure as hell didn't know about it till Van Gundy said it. It really doesn't seem fair for the defense though.

[Ketchup]

It's penalizing the defensive team for having a good defense that melted that 24 seconds shot clock. How is it a good rule? Shot clock should have remained as is.

The defending team couldn't get the rebound, hold the ball, or whatever it is, and they got tied up. Shouldn't reward them either for being careless. You need to play defense for 24 seconds, not 23.2.

[blacknapalm]

i didn't know about the rule. it begins with coach brooks...he has to let his players know of different situations. bucher actually said brooks told them and wb even looked up at the jumbo tron so idk.

btw, this was corroborated in the post-game presser where wb said it was a miscommunication. you can decide who was at fault...the easy thing to do is say brooks didn't explain it well but there you go. it's almost school-like. if you don't understand something, don't be afraid to ask a question. finals, heat of the moment thing

[dbugz]

I just explained why. Throwing up a tip and having the shot clock expire immediately would be stupid.

And that's the goal of the defensive team, to play good defense so the offensive team will be having hard time shooting the ball that will lead to shot clock expiration.

Where's the logic of playing good defense if the offensive team will be having extra 5 seconds shot clock to score just like on that situation.

[dbugz]

The defending team couldn't get the rebound, hold the ball, or whatever it is, and they got tied up. Shouldn't reward them either for being careless. You need to play defense for 24 seconds, not 23.2.

And the offensive team will be rewarded with 5 seconds shot clock for having a poor offensive execution? the fck???

[Ketchup]

And the offensive team will be rewarded with 5 seconds shot clock for having a poor offensive execution? the fck???

If the ball is tied up, it has essentially changed possession. It is no longer in the possession of the offensive or defensive team. So some reprise has to be sought out.

It would be ridiculously stupid to not add on, because then what? The offensive team gets the ball and it's a turnover right away. Or, you just give the ball to the defensive team, but that's not correct, since the other team hasn't used all their shot clock. Then you could just give it back to the offensive team on the sideline with 0.8 remaining... But then they could draw up a play and call a timeout right before that getting an advantage.

The best idea is to still have it a toss up and add a minimal amount of time remaining. Does that make sense? It's more like a best option out of a whole bunch of bad options when it comes to that situation. There is no fair outcome really.

[bluechox2]

never seen this rule ever before..must be a new rule the league created for lebron

[talkingconch]

[RazorBaLade]

I just explained why. Throwing up a tip and having the shot clock expire immediately would be stupid.

I guess so. Even on deflections out of bounds etc they add time to the shot clock. It makes sense, its just unfortunate.

[dbugz]

Like what I said on my earlier post, if there's already a change in ball possession why not reset it back to 24 (Westbrook thought it was that's why he foul right away) ? If ball possession will only be their basis on that rule they should reset it back to 24 seconds just like what the OKC should have get if they won that jump ball.


It's unfair to the defensive team imo.

[tastystaci]

I just explained why. Throwing up a tip and having the shot clock expire immediately would be stupid..

Why would that be stupid. The defense has forced a shot clock violation. It's stupid that you would defend somebody for 23.2 seconds, then have an additional five seconds added just because you made a good defensive play. Amazing people actually defend such a horrible rule.

[Ketchup]

Why would that be stupid. The defense has forced a shot clock violation. It's stupid that you would defend somebody for 23.2 seconds, then have an additional five seconds added just because you made a good defensive play. Amazing people actually defend such a horrible rule.

So do you suggest that the offensive team be given the ball on the sideline with 0.8 left?

If not, then why should there be 0.8 left if they don't have possession since it's a jump ball?

[RazorBaLade]

Why would that be stupid. The defense has forced a shot clock violation. It's stupid that you would defend somebody for 23.2 seconds, then have an additional five seconds added just because you made a good defensive play. Amazing people actually defend such a horrible rule.

But what about deflections?

If you defend well for 23 seconds and then knock the ball out of bounds with a kick or hand it goes back to 14!

Same principle..

[tastystaci]

So do you suggest that the offensive team be given the ball on the sideline with 0.8 left?

If not, then why should there be 0.8 left if they don't have possession since it's a jump ball?

Not at all. That would be even more retarded. Jump ball with .8 seconds which will obviously lead to a shot clock violation is what should happen. Possession has not changed. The last team to posess the ball was Miami. Until that changes, the shot clock doesn't reset. Same reason it doesn't reset on a loose ball. If Durant tips the ball out toward the back court, even though Miami technically didn't possess the ball, either has the Thunder. That would be a shot clock violation. Why penalize a team because they've made a good defensive play?