Jordan's scoring + passing compared to Lebron's

[sdot_thadon]

Hoe 2 and 3 are both still more accurate 1.
I know you love Jordan but you're changing the value of assists now

And where'd you get that stat from? Seems like you pulled it out your ass

Because doing that would require intellectually honest research and the results wouldn't fit his warped purpose. That's why. Oh and ignoring is the best medicine sometimes.

[3ball]

An assist is worth 2 points and [COLOR="Red"]most of the time in Lebron's case, 3 points.[/COLOR]

^^^^ That is false - Lebron's assists were mostly for TWO-pointers.

65% of the Cavs' shots this season were 2-pointers (4461 of 6888 total shot attempts), and 35% were 3-pointers.

When we apply this 35% to Lebron's 8.6 assists, we see that only 3.0 of his assists are for 3-pointers - these 3 points aren't enough to offset his 7-point scoring deficit to Jordan.. And of course, the 3-points we gave Lebron assumes Jordan assisted on ZERO 3-pointers, which isn't the case.

[FKAri]

What is the logic behind valuing one assist as equal to one point?

OP's an idiot. That's the logic.

For some highly concentrated idiocy see this:

^^^^ That is false - Lebron's assists were mostly for TWO-pointers.

65% of the Cavs' shots this season were 2-pointers (4461 of 6888 total shot attempts), and 35% were 3-pointers.

When we apply this 35% to Lebron's 8.6 assists, we see that only 3.0 of his assists are for 3-pointers - these 3 points aren't enough to offset his 7-point scoring deficit to Jordan.. And of course, the 3-points we gave Lebron assumes Jordan assisted on ZERO 3-pointers, which isn't the case.

and yet still he applies 1 point to assists

[3ball]

and yet still he applies 1 point to assists

Jordan's 7 point scoring advantage isn't offset by Lebron's 1 assist advantage, no matter how you slice it.

Jordan accounted for more points than Lebron, FAR more.. This is statistical fact.

[Bankaii]

^^^^ That is false - Lebron's assists were mostly for TWO-pointers.

65% of the Cavs' shots this season were 2-pointers (4461 of 6888 total shot attempts), and 35% were 3-pointers.

When we apply this 35% to Lebron's 8.6 assists, we see that only 3.0 of his assists are for 3-pointers - these 3 points aren't enough to offset his 7-point scoring deficit to Jordan.. And of course, the 3-points we gave Lebron assumes Jordan assisted on ZERO 3-pointers, which isn't the case.

Why are you quoting my post when you already responded to it before?

But now I'm going to call you out, you're bullshitting these stats.
The first response you said 3/4 of Lebron's assist resulted in a 2. That means 2.15 of his assists would result in a 3.
Now you're saying 3 of his assists resulted in a 3. Which one is it? Post a credible source for where your getting these random numbers from.

And even if you're numbers are right you're applying a stat from one year to support your claim for and entire career of playoffs. That's insanely ignorant.

The fact is that Lebron's assists result in a 3 at a much much higher percentage than Jordan's did. Unless you have a stat to accurately depict what percentage of assists resulted in a 2 or 3 your info is false.

You also aren't taking into account FGA. If you look at the points per shot Lebron was much more efficient with his FGA. Jordan took more shots which is why he has more points.

You're entire formula is bullshit.

[3ball]

If you look at the [COLOR="Red"]points per shot[/COLOR] Lebron was much more efficient with his FGA.

Lebron's points-per-shot was 1.35 compared to Jordan's 1.33, which is essentially equal, except Jordan scored 20% more (43.3 to 36.3).

More importantly, Jordan's points-per-POSSESSION (ORtg) was much higher and he had better shooting efficiency as well (true shooting and FG%).

So I'll take Jordan's 20% more scoring on equal points-per-shot, with superior points-per-possession and shooting efficiency.

you're applying a stat [COLOR="Red"]from one year[/COLOR] to support your claim for and entire career of playoffs.

The OP stats are their CAREER STATS in the playoffs, per 100 possessions.

Lebron's 1 assist advantage doesn't make up for his 7 point deficit, no matter how you slice it.

Jordan scored 7 more points on better efficiency across the board (TS, FG, ORtg), with only 1 less assist.

Unless you have a stat to accurately depict what percentage of assists resulted in a 2 or 3 your info is false.

Jordan's 7 point scoring advantage cannot be offset by Lebron's 1 assist advantage, no matter how you slice it.

Jordan accounted for more points than Lebron.. This is statistical fact.
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