Anyone else pissed that Cleveland...

[longtime lurker]

Orlando has been gifted 2 of the best centers in their generation only to see them both walk to the Lakers because of incompetent management.

[Jameerthefear]

Orlando has been gifted 2 of the best centers in their generation only to see them both walk to the Lakers because of incompetent management.

Except that isn't true at all. Shaq left because he wanted to be in the big lights. Dwight was traded.

[VIntageNOvel]

yo jameer,

if all the big name is taken (parker, wiggin, embiid)
whos your gonna pick?

[longtime lurker]

Except that isn't true at all. Shaq left because he wanted to be in the big lights. Dwight was traded.

Shaq left because management by management and the city during contract negotiations. Dwight asked out because of shitty management. You know what they say about people in glass houses.

[Jameerthefear]

Shaq left because management by management and the city during contract negotiations. Dwight asked out because of shitty management. You know what they say about people in glass houses.

Dwight left because the Magic weren't winning championship games. This isn't on management at all. They just fell short.
Shaq literally said it himself:

"Fifty percent of it was that I was selfish. I had a lot of stuff going on … movies and albums … that I couldn't pass up," Shaq said following a packed retirement announcement at his palatial Isleworth home with the Magic-blue tile roof. "Forty percent of it was the Sentinel poll and the fact that I was very sensitive at a young age. Ten percent of it was that Bob (Magic president Bob Vander Weide) and the organization didn't move quickly enough (to match the Lakers' offer)."

[longtime lurker]

Dwight left because the Magic weren't winning championship games. This isn't on management at all. They just fell short.
Shaq literally said it himself:

So you support my argument that you lost both because of shitty management. Agreed.

[Jameerthefear]

So you support my argument that you lost both because of shitty management. Agreed.

You legit might be retarded. Ignore listed. Reading your posts are like watching a child shit itself over and over again.

[Rubio2Gasol]

Look at it this way.

We get to laugh at them in 3-5 years when Kyrie and Embiid say they're outty.

[Jameerthefear]

Look at it this way.

We get to laugh at them in 3-5 years when Kyrie and Embiid say they're outty.

Damn. Real shit but it's true

[Meticode]

Except that isn't true at all. Shaq left because he wanted to be in the big lights. Dwight was traded.

You know, for being an Orlando fan you don't know a lot of what went on between O'Neal, the Magic and the city itself. The year Shaq became a free agent most people in Orlando didn't feel he was worth over $120 milllion for his contract, also Shaq and coach Hill didn't get a long at all, also Orlando media was against O'Neal basically stating he wasn't a good role model for kids either because he had a longtime girlfriend with no plans to marry. O'Neal even stated that his celebritism in Orlando was like "being a big fish in a dried up pond". Also let's not forget the fact that Penny Hardaway and him had a power struggle. Hardaway felt he was the better player and didn't want O'Neal to make more money than him. O'Neal had a difficult year in 1996 because of the Olympic team and all the flack he got from his Olympic teammates with his situation.

In the end Dwight left because he wasn't happy there. SVG was completely the wrong coach for the type of mental softy Howard is and SVG isn't a players buddy-buddy coach.

People can bitch and moan all they want, the NBA draft lottery has been this setup for over 20+ years and there's a chance this could've happen.

[Jameerthefear]

You know, for being an Orlando fan you don't know a lot of what went on between O'Neal, the Magic and the city itself. The year Shaq became a free agent most people in Orlando didn't feel he was worth over $120 milllion for his contract, also Shaq and coach Hill didn't get a long at all, also Orlando media was against O'Neal basically stating he wasn't a good role model for kids either because he had a longtime girlfriend with no plans to marry. O'Neal even stated that his celebritism in Orlando was like "being a big fish in a dried up pond". Also let's not forget the fact that Penny Hardaway and him had a power struggle. Hardaway felt he was the better player and didn't want O'Neal to make more money than him. O'Neal had a difficult year in 1996 because of the Olympic team and all the flack he got from his Olympic teammates with his situation.

In the end Dwight left because he wasn't happy there. SVG was completely the wrong coach for the type of mental softy Howard is and SVG isn't a players buddy-buddy coach.

People can bitch and moan all they want, the NBA draft lottery has been this setup for over 20+ years and there's a chance this could've happen.

I supposedly don't know what I literally just ****ing posted? Time to read bud.

[longtime lurker]

You know, for being an Orlando fan you don't know a lot of what went on between O'Neal, the Magic and the city itself. The year Shaq became a free agent most people in Orlando didn't feel he was worth over $120 milllion for his contract, also Shaq and coach Hill didn't get a long at all, also Orlando media was against O'Neal basically stating he wasn't a good role model for kids either because he had a longtime girlfriend with no plans to marry. O'Neal even stated that his celebritism in Orlando was like "being a big fish in a dried up pond". Also let's not forget the fact that Penny Hardaway and him had a power struggle. Hardaway felt he was the better player and didn't want O'Neal to make more money than him. O'Neal had a difficult year in 1996 because of the Olympic team and all the flack he got from his Olympic teammates with his situation.

In the end Dwight left because he wasn't happy there. SVG was completely the wrong coach for the type of mental softy Howard is and SVG isn't a players buddy-buddy coach.

People can bitch and moan all they want, the NBA draft lottery has been this setup for over 20+ years and there's a chance this could've happen.

The kid was still swimming in his daddy's ******* when Shaq left the Magic.

[Derka]

Doesn't matter. Its Cleveland. Their front office will screw this up.

[Meticode]

Doesn't matter. Its Cleveland. Their front office will screw this up.

Hopefully not. Their biggest screw-up was getting Mike Brown back, then it was the Bennett pick so far.

[MavsSuperFan]

honestly i am in principle against the draft lottery. Would prefer the NFL system of worst team gets first pick, second worst gets second pick, etc. Champion gets last pick.

I know some people cry about tanking, but imo no one even pays attention to the bottom feeders of the league. People watch the contenders.

The NFL is by far the #1 league in the US. All american sports leagues should try to emulate it as much as possible.

An NFL draft system will push parity on the league, which imo is a huge reason the NFL is successful.

Also the NBA should reschedule games as the season goes on to ensure the best games are nationally televised. Eg. flex schedule out of a laker/bulls game that is missing kobe and rose.