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Old 04-20-2012, 08:44 PM   #286
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I know XYY will probably disagree with is, but...
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The Genius Of Kevin O'Connor

With a week left in the regular season, the final playoff spot in the Western Conference is down to three teams: the Phoenix Suns, Houston Rockets and Utah Jazz. But while both the Suns and Rockets are firmly stuck on the mediocrity treadmill, not bad enough to rebuild and not good enough to contend, the Jazz have pulled off the high-wire act of committing to a full rebuild without tanking.

Houston GM Daryl Morey has become a cult figure in the NBA blogosphere, but it’s Utah GM Kevin O’Connor who has been running rings around most of the league. He should be the NBA’s Executive of the Year, as the Jazz will be reaping the fruits of his decisions for years to come.

The only way for a small-market team to build a championship contender is through the draft, which is why tanking has become increasingly popular. But because O’Connor sold high when he had an unhappy superstar, he was able to get two high lottery picks without needing to blow up the rest of the team.

The Jazz acquired two high-upside 6’10+ players (Enes Kanter and Derrick Favors) without the losing teams typically need to do so, which has given them the luxury of bringing both young big men along slowly. Utah has two parallel cores in place: a veteran group led by Al Jefferson, Paul Millsap and Devin Harris and a nucleus of four under-22 lottery picks.

Utah also has the rights to the Golden State Warriors 2012 first-round pick if it falls outside of the top 7; they could get a playoff berth and a lottery pick out of the 2011-12 season while the Warriors get neither.

However, having lottery picks is only half the battle. A GM still needs to be able to identify good young talent that “fits” well together over the long haul. O’Connor has been masterful, selecting players at premium positions whose skill sets don’t replicate each other.

When he was shopping Deron Williams, he ignored flashy perimeter talent and focused on finding an athletic young big man who can protect the rim. Favors has slipped under the radar in his first two seasons, but he’s a 6’10 245 athlete with a 7’4 wingspan and a 35’ max vertical capable of anchoring a championship-caliber defense. Per-36 minutes, the 20-year-old is averaging 14.7 points, 11.1 rebounds and 1.6 blocks on 49% shooting.

In the 2011 Draft, rather than taking a point guard like Brandon Knight, he opted for Kanter, a 6’11, 260 big man with an excellent feel for scoring out of the low post as well as a developing mid-range jumper (he is shooting 65.6% from the free-throw line this season). Per-36 minutes, the 19-year-old is averaging 12.2 points and 11.6 rebounds on 49% shooting.

While the rest of the NBA is getting smaller, Utah will have a 6’10+ athlete who can patrol the paint and a skilled 6’11+ player who can punish teams offensively. It’s the same basic formula the Dallas Mavericks used to stun their more high-profile opponents in the 2011 playoffs.

Just as importantly, O’Connor’s selections give him a lot more flexibility going forward. There will always be good guards available, which is why Utah took a center, power forward and small forward first, as it’s much harder to find even replacement-level players at those positions.

Hayward, their 6’8, 210 small forward, will never be a star, but he has the skill-set and athleticism to be a solid two-way starter. Per-36 minutes, the 22-year-old is averaging 14.1, 4.2 rebounds and 3.7 assists on 45% shooting.

Burks, their 6’6, 200 shooting guard, may not be a front-line starter, as he’s neither a great jump shooter (shooting 29% from three) nor playmaker (averaging 2.2 assists on 2.0 turnovers). However, he’s a good athlete who can get to the rim and create his own shot (averaging 16.0 points per 36 minutes while taking 40% of his shots in the paint), and he could become a Sixth Man of the Year candidate as a bench scorer.

And with a frontcourt of the future already in place, O’Connor will have the luxury of picking through one of the deepest drafts in recent memory for perimeter help.

His first priority should be at point guard, as Favors and Kanter need someone who can run a team, find them on the break and get them shots in the half-court. Kendall Marshall (UNC) would make a lot of sense, as Utah could hide his defensive shortcomings while his jaw-dropping passing ability (9.8 assists on 2.8 turnovers this year) would be extremely valuable on a roster full of finishers.

Meanwhile, if Golden State’s rather embarrassing attempt to keep their pick comes up short, O’Connor will be able to round out his starting five with a future star at shooting guard. Bradley Beal (Florida) will probably be off the board, but Terrence Ross (Washington), Jeremy Lamb (UConn) and Dion Waiters (Syracuse) should still be available, and all three have All-Star caliber athleticism, shooting and shot-creating ability.

Two years ago, Utah was a capped-out veteran team with a frustrated star eyeing free agency. Now, thanks to O’Connor’s shrewd long-term planning, they have one of the NBA’s most promising young core all while staying in playoff contention. Even if the Jazz end up falling behind the Rockets or the Suns, they are in a far superior position going forward.

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/blog/22...#ixzz1sdBk3H1F
Houston were partly screwed up by Yao retiring, so they could just as well be in the same position as the Jazz if he was healthy and traded. Suns could also have been if they had of pulled the trigger in trading Nash a year or two ago. It's a tough position to be in, although the Jazz hands were partly forced by Deron indicating he wouldn't be staying, which is something Nash has recently hinted at, but now it's too late to get a really good deal for him.
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Old 04-21-2012, 07:03 AM   #287
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the Jazz hands were partly forced by Deron indicating he wouldn't be staying

Never said he wasn't staying. He just hadn't committed to staying. The trade had more to do with what went down with Sloan as far as I'm concerned.

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he was able to get two high lottery picks without needing to blow up the rest of the team.

But how much he could have gotten if he hadn't taken the 2nd offer on the table from the only team that knew he was even available?

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the Jazz will be reaping the fruits of his decisions for years to come...

... GM still needs to be able to identify good young talent that “fits” well together over the long haul. O’Connor has been masterful, selecting players at premium positions whose skill sets don’t replicate each other.

Time will tell.

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There will always be good guards available

Except this year I guess and their kind of pg historically are few and far between.

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Hayward, their 6’8, 210 small forward, will never be a star, but he has the skill-set and athleticism to be a solid two-way starter.

Continue selling the guy short. He and Millsap are the core right now regardless of how everyone feels about Jefferson and Favors.

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Burks, their 6’6, 200 shooting guard, may not be a front-line starter, as he’s neither a great jump shooter (shooting 29% from three) nor playmaker (averaging 2.2 assists on 2.0 turnovers). However, he’s a good athlete who can get to the rim and create his own shot (averaging 16.0 points per 36 minutes while taking 40% of his shots in the paint), and he could become a Sixth Man of the Year candidate as a bench scorer.

Looks like he could be a go to guy. Only question with him is if he has the mindset to play in their offense.

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O’Connor will have the luxury of picking through one of the deepest drafts in recent memory for perimeter help.

His first priority should be at point guard

And pg is not deep. Luckily if they have a pick they can probably get who they want based on the mocks and should try to trade into the draft if they don't have a pick and like someone. They should have been developing someone this year not two years from now.

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Kendall Marshall (UNC) would make a lot of sense, as Utah could hide his defensive shortcomings while his jaw-dropping passing ability (9.8 assists on 2.8 turnovers this year) would be extremely valuable on a roster full of finishers.

Not sure they want to be hiding anybody's defensive shortcomings but he sounds like their type of player but I could see going in another direction and running the offense through Hayward and Millsap and eventually Burks and whoever ends up at the 1 in the mix as well.

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if Golden State’s rather embarrassing attempt to keep their pick comes up short, O’Connor will be able to round out his starting five with a future star at shooting guard. Bradley Beal (Florida) will probably be off the board, but Terrence Ross (Washington), Jeremy Lamb (UConn) and Dion Waiters (Syracuse) should still be available, and all three have All-Star caliber athleticism, shooting and shot-creating ability.

Unless they can get someone they deem better than the 4 young guys they have pg is the only position they should look to fill and are any of these guys beter than Burks or Hayward in the Jazz system?

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Two years ago, Utah was a capped-out veteran team with a frustrated star eyeing free agency. Now, thanks to O’Connor’s shrewd long-term planning

He's also the one that had them capped out with an inferior roster that wasn't putting a good enough team on the floor to keep Deron happy. It's the old Sloan logic. Everything that goes right they get the credit but when things don't go right you place the blameelsewhere.

No mention of Al and Harris' expiring contracts that could really turn things around?

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Old 04-22-2012, 04:57 AM   #288
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They need to quit playing Millsap at SF so much. It's killing their D.
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Old 04-24-2012, 04:36 AM   #289
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Jazz forward Josh Howard and guard Raja Bell are scheduled to go through a full-contact practice Monday. The duo will be re-evaluated before shootaround Tuesday and could be active against Phoenix.

Howard, who is recovering from arthroscopic left knee surgery, has long eyed the Suns game as his return date.

Howard hasn't played since March 18, while Bell hasn't taken the court since March 15. The veteran duo have started a combined 51 games for the Jazz this season.

Considering how both struggled coming back from their previous injuries I'm not sure I want them playing. Nice to have a couple veteran bodies in case I guess but hopefully Corbin will stick with what has been working first and only use them if they need a spark.
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Old 04-24-2012, 06:52 AM   #290
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Considering how both struggled coming back from their previous injuries I'm not sure I want them playing. Nice to have a couple veteran bodies in case I guess but hopefully Corbin will stick with what has been working first and only use them if they need a spark.
Yea, i'd let them skip this game. Don't need rusty players trying to find form in a big game.
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