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Re: John Wall, Prime Chris Webber, and Prime Juwan Howard
Originally Posted by IncarceratedBob
Well obviously I meant give Pop rookie Webber not have Webber join the Spurs in 97...
Same here. Spurs don't win in 99 or 03 without Tim. They would have been capable in 2005, but Tim still had the edge, and that edge is necessary in a 7 game series with the Pistons. He would have won in 07 and 14 as a part of a larger team effort.
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NBA Legend
Re: John Wall, Prime Chris Webber, and Prime Juwan Howard
It's still hard to say with only knowing 3 guys on the damn roster but they'd clearly be a top 3-4 seed. I'd like to see how Wall and Webber work together tho because they don't seem like clearly complementary pieces. I have little doubt Wall would be able to figure it out tho. Extremely smart and seems to be a win or nothing type of leader.
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ruckus for president
Re: John Wall, Prime Chris Webber, and Prime Juwan Howard
heavy trolling in this thread
imo lebron james is the most talented power forward ever, he is big, athletic, GOAT pf passer, GOAT pf ball handler, one of the best shooters, GOAT slasher, imagine lebron playing duncan's role in pop system, can you say 15 rings?
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XXL
Re: John Wall, Prime Chris Webber, and Prime Juwan Howard
C webb had ridiculously long arms
6-9 barefoot (6-10 in shoes, listed)
7-3.5 wingspan
He had the strength, length and skill to dominate the low post. such a shame
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Re: John Wall, Prime Chris Webber, and Prime Juwan Howard
Originally Posted by Im Still Ballin
Name a more talented PF?
Hint; You can't
Donatas Motiejunas
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Re: John Wall, Prime Chris Webber, and Prime Juwan Howard
Lebron23: 202.138.183.242
Im still ballin: 202.138.183.242
Wow yall got caught slippin
It makes sense why you answer right away lol
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XXL
Re: John Wall, Prime Chris Webber, and Prime Juwan Howard
Lebron23: 202.138.183.242
Im still ballin: 202.138.183.242
20four: 202.138.183.242
Damn, we got caught slippin!
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Re: John Wall, Prime Chris Webber, and Prime Juwan Howard
Originally Posted by Im Still Ballin
Lebron23: 202.138.183.242
Im still ballin: 202.138.183.242
20four: 202.138.183.242
Damn, we got caught slippin!
Aww, you got caught lmao it makes sense son!!!! hahahahahahahhahaha
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Knicks all da way
Re: John Wall, Prime Chris Webber, and Prime Juwan Howard
Originally Posted by NBAplayoffs2001
He fell in love with those long 2s way too often. Reminds me so much of Lemarcus Aldridge sometimes.
He was like a more athletic LMA with great passing skills
Shame about his injuries, he should have been amongst the greatest of all time.
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Re: John Wall, Prime Chris Webber, and Prime Juwan Howard
Originally Posted by IncarceratedBob
hard to argue against C Dub as the most talented PF... imagine him in Pops system. Damn
You mean Dantoni's system?
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Coach
Re: John Wall, Prime Chris Webber, and Prime Juwan Howard
Rod Strickland was every bit as good as Wall and they still got Molly Whopped by MJs Bulls. So basically the same outcome here as well. Wall is simeltaneously both really good and overrated.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: John Wall, Prime Chris Webber, and Prime Juwan Howard
Originally Posted by NBAplayoffs2001
Sheed was a freak. He could have been so much better if he realized how devastating he was in the post. I respect him for playing more team ball on those Pistons team that were winning 60+ and reaching the ECF/NBA finals for 4 years in a row but he always could have been better at least in my opinion. Sheed wasn't the passer Chris Webber was though. In terms of offense, I would say Sheed had arguably more energy. He definitely had the intimidation factor and possibly a defensive edge. I would say though Chris Webber was definitely a more legitimate #1 for a playoff team but Sheed was a fine #2/#3 for a championship team.
Indeed. This guy in the early 2000s was better than Duncan, Garnett, Mcydyess, Webber, Malone down in the post. His turn around was unstoppable. There was nothing you could do because of his length, but hope he missed it. While Garnett had to work on his and it was always streaky from night to night, Sheed was pure money. I usually only have good things to say about a guy as unselfish as Sheed...but frankly he was hurting the teams he was on by not demanding the ball more and taking 18+ shots a game. My only qualm about his post game was that he didn't put it on the floor enough and he had the ball handling to do so.
Possibly a defensive edge? Sheed was a MUCH better defensive player than Webber. It's a joke that this guy was never even 2nd team all defensive. He was the best one on one post defender for a good decade and was also able to anchor a defense. (Pistons only dropped from 5th in defense to 7th when Big Ben left because Sheed held it down. Didn't matter though...got snubbed again.)
Last edited by Smoke117; 03-25-2015 at 08:23 PM.
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Knicks all da way
Re: John Wall, Prime Chris Webber, and Prime Juwan Howard
Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
Rod Strickland was every bit as good as Wall and they still got Molly Whopped by MJs Bulls. So basically the same outcome here as well. Wall is simeltaneously both really good and overrated.
What do you mean? That 3 game sweep was probably one of the toughest the Bulls dynasty played in the 1st round. Yes it was a sweep, but I am pretty sure 2 of the games came down to the final minute(s).
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Coach
Re: John Wall, Prime Chris Webber, and Prime Juwan Howard
Originally Posted by imdaman99
What do you mean? That 3 game sweep was probably one of the toughest the Bulls dynasty played in the 1st round. Yes it was a sweep, but I am pretty sure 2 of the games came down to the final minute(s).
Yes, because they got swept.
I agree the games were very competitive. Washington had a young, talented team all around with: Strickland, Cheney, Webber, and J. Howard.
I think it was Pippen's game winning dunk in the close out game that ruined his back, and plagued him not only for the rest of those playoffs and second three peat but the rest of his career period.
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Impartial NBA analyst
Re: John Wall, Prime Chris Webber, and Prime Juwan Howard
Prime Bran and two WNBA players > Wall, Webber, Howard
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