How can Scottie Pippen be Overrated when...

[zay_24]

Russell was 6'9.5 barefoot, which is about the height of the average center of today. And Russell never dominated Wilt. He only reduced his scoring total and efficiency numbers. Wilt still averaged 28.7 ppg and 28.7 rpg against him.

When it mattered(playoffs) Wilt couldnt seem to get pass him.

Just admit it, Rodman would out rebound Wilt and most likely make him start crying.

[2LeTTeRS]

I usually hate those era arguments, but is it really that unreasonable to think Rodman would dominate in Russell's era ? He was a greater rebounder than Wilt if you judge by their rebound rate. Yeah I know that stat only existed for Wilt in his last three years in the league but when he grabbed 18-19 rebounds a game in his Laker days, that translated to a 18-20 rebound rate. Which is lower than Rodman's career average (23.4). Rodman's career best was an insane 29.7, which means for every 10 rebounds that were available, Rodman grabbed 3 of them. All this while being smaller than his opponents. Russell and Wilt were either about the same height or taller.

So is it really that unreasonable ?

Who said Rodman wouldn't dominate in the 60s? The only comments were how Russel or Wilt would have performed in todays game. As far as Rodman, he obviously wouldn't have been any worse than he was in the 90s, so he would have been a hellish rebounder and defender, and its very likely that based off his athleticism he would have been able to score more points.

[Psileas]

I usually hate those era arguments, but is it really that unreasonable to think Rodman would dominate in Russell's era ? He was a greater rebounder than Wilt if you judge by their rebound rate. Yeah I know that stat only existed for Wilt in his last three years in the league but when he grabbed 18-19 rebounds a game in his Laker days, that translated to a 18-20 rebound rate. Which is lower than Rodman's career average (23.4). Rodman's career best was an insane 29.7, which means for every 10 rebounds that were available, Rodman grabbed 3 of them. All this while being smaller than his opponents. Russell and Wilt were either about the same height or taller.

So is it really that unreasonable ?

No-one said that Rodman wouldn't be a dominant rebounder in any era he played in. But that's leagues away from crap like "Rodman dominating Wilt", etc.
BTW, if Rodman wanted to win rebounding titles, he'd still have to play 40+ minutes a game season after season (35 mpg wouldn't be enough to get him to Wilt's and Russell's averages) and not miss games (which he did quite often after the early 90's), since, up to 1969, leading rebounders were judged by totals, not averages.

[2LeTTeRS]

When it mattered(playoffs) Wilt couldnt seem to get pass him.

Just admit it, Rodman would out rebound Wilt and most likely make him start crying.

Do you realize how stacked those Celtics teams were? Contrary to popular belief, they weren't out there playing one-on-one, and Russel normally had a far superior supporting cast. When Wilt had a comparable team he won.

[zay_24]

The players in todays game are too athletic. Sure wilt was athletic for his time too.
But compared to todays players, there's no way Wilt would be 50% as dominant in todays game as he was in his time.

[Psileas]

When it mattered(playoffs) Wilt couldnt seem to get pass him.

Just admit it, Rodman would out rebound Wilt and most likely make him start crying.

When it mattered, Jordan couldn't "get pass" Bird's Celtics and Isiah's Pistons. How about that?

Yeah, Rodman would make Wilt cry. From laughter.

[2LeTTeRS]

The players in todays game are too athletic. Sure wilt was athletic for his time too.
But compared to todays players, there's no way Wilt would be 50% as dominant in todays game as he was in his time.

Besides Dwight no center in today's leauge is half the athlete that Wilt was, even in the twilight of his career as a Laker.

[zay_24]

When it mattered, Jordan couldn't "get pass" Bird's Celtics and Isiah's Pistons. How about that?

Yeah, Rodman would make Wilt cry. From laughter.

Is that why Jordan stopped several great NBA players from getting a ring?

[Mikaiel]

The players in todays game are too athletic. Sure wilt was athletic for his time too.

For his time ? He could be one of the most, if the not the most, athletic player today if he was born a few decades later ...

[2LeTTeRS]

Is that why Jordan stopped several great NBA players from getting a ring?

Wow you're reasoning is so child-like its funny. Again how old are you?

[zay_24]

Besides Dwight no center in today's leauge is half the athlete that Wilt was, even in the twilight of his career as a Laker.

You're right. Centers today aren't as athletic as they once were. PF's, now that's a different story.

[Psileas]

The players in todays game are too athletic. Sure wilt was athletic for his time too.
But compared to todays players, there's no way Wilt would be 50% as dominant in todays game as he was in his time.

Generally, you are another kid who thinks that basketball was invented in the 80's or 90's and before that there only existed some tall dudes who walked with the help of nurses and couldn't touch the rim when they jumped.

You thought that Rodman and Barkley would embarass Wilt, then you assumed that Reed was better than Wilt, now you're saying that he was athletic "for his time". Get some years of studying about these guys, instead of believing anything your friends say in chat rooms, then come back and discuss. Or, better, get back to your own topic. This is the only way to have some decent discussion.

[pete's montreux]

I have nothing to say about this thread, except, it's learning time, kiddo.

[zay_24]

Generally, you are another kid who thinks that basketball was invented in the 80's or 90's and before that there only existed some tall dudes who walked with the help of nurses and couldn't touch the rim when they jumped.

You thought that Rodman and Barkley would embarass Wilt, then you assumed that Reed was better than Wilt, now you're saying that he was athletic "for his time". Get some years of studying about these guys, instead of believing anything your friends say in chat rooms, then come back and discuss. Or, better, get back to your own topic. This is the only way to have some decent discussion.

Nope, it's opinion.
Seeing as how most players back in that day weren't athletic, there's no way you could prove that wilt would be a dominant player in todays game.
Unless you can PROVE he will be, it's just your opinion FACT.

[Scott Pippen]

You're right. Centers today aren't as athletic as they once were. PF's, now that's a different story.

Wilt Chamberlain was a physical freak by TODAY's standards, playing back then.