Duncan or bron. who's higher all time?

[Nash]

Depends on what you're going after. It's the same thing with Kobe here as well. Lebron is better than both, hell, Lebron is one of the best players to have ever played the game(after #1 Jordan). It's just that Duncan's 4 rings and Kobe's 5 rings are the only thing that is keeping them ahead in some peoples eyes. Because individually, Lebron is better.

[DaSeba5]

Right now Duncan, but I think LeBron will be ahead of him by the time he retires. It's all subjective though.

[jzek]

right now, duncan. once lebron retires, he'll move ahead.

[HarryCallahan]

Duncan.... Easily. LeBron should overtake him, but we'll have to see what happens when he loses his dominant athleticism and has to rely more on jump-shots and "post-game" the latter he doesn't really have, espn just likes to say that when he backs down much smaller/lighter players.

[LAZERUSS]

I'm not claiming that Lebron has had a greater career than Duncan, but it is becoming close. 4 MVPs and 2 FMVPs, as well as some of the greatest regular seasons and post-seasons in NBA history. I think Lebron has a case over players like Hakeem and Bird.

[Pointguard]

Duncan is a great winner to me. In that elite category, he Magic and Russell really stand out. Duncan only had one really good team to me. So he's still ahead of Lebron.

Ironically, last year if Duncan has the talent Lebron had, or even just a fully healthy team, he wins hands down and this is Lebron's peak. Instead Lebron gets one more ring and FMVP instead of Duncan. Duncan is really special and unique. All of you guys that have a super high premium on winning Duncan has to be off the charts. But still, even with that said, Lebron does indeed have a shot at GOAT for me while Duncan likely doesn't.

[Fudge]

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7. Duncan
8. Shaq
9. Kobe
10. LeBron

Worry about LeBron overtaking Shaq and Kobe first brahs.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Jordan
Russell
Kareem
Wilt
Magic
Bird
Shaq
Duncan
Kobe
LeBron

If we're talking career accomplishments (peak wise, LeBron is already top 5-7 imo), this season LeBron could cement himself as a LEGIT top 5 player.

[russwest0]

Offense: Duncan > LeBron
Defense: Duncan >>>>>>>>>>>> LeBron
Rebounding: Duncan >>>>>>>>>> LeBron

[bizil]

Kobe over Shaq, Bird and Duncan, huh?

When it comes to Kobe, Shaq, Bird, and Duncan, you could rate anyone of them in that 6-10 range and I wouldn't complain. But when u consider Kobe's five rings, longevity being great, scoring numbers, etc., I think he has a great case to be rated as high as number 6 on the GOAT list. Shaq, Bird, and Duncan weren't as dominant for as long as the Mamba. But as I stated, it's not out of the realm of possibility that Kobe is as high as 6 GOAT wise. And Kobe I feel will even likely surpass Magic as well and be #5.

[BoutPractice]

The consensus:

Right now: Duncan
When it's all said and done: probably LeBron due to the individual records he'll end up with, and the fact that it's likely that he wins at least one more title before the end of his career

[OldSkoolball#52]

It's different though. Duncan has accomplished much more than Lebron (so far) and carried Cav-esc rosters to chips. If they both retired today, Duncan has literally done everything better than Lebron in terms of winning. For the record, I do think Lebron will rank higher than him eventually.

So when you rank players, you go strictly based on resumes, which include team achievements, and often silly awards voted for by ignorant media members?

You don't compare each guy's game and the different things he brings on the court and his overall effectiveness?

[rodman91]

If Duncan took his talents to join Shaq & Kobe, he would be GOAT probably.

Lebron had his legacy in a cheap way. Who would join his main rival to win... Still disgusting.

[GoSpursGo1984]

If Duncan took his talents to join Shaq & Kobe, he would be GOAT probably.

Lebron had his legacy in a cheap way. Who would join his main rival to win... Still disgusting.

Duncan has done more with less. Lebron had to join two superstars to win.

[BigTicket]

I think Duncan still has the lead, but it's not very large, and Lebron has a lot of years left to catch up.