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    Default Re: Was 2013 Game 7 the biggest carry in Finals history?

    Quote Originally Posted by bigkingsfan
    2013 Spurs 58 wins
    Def Rtg: 101.6 (3rd of 30

    2010 Celtics 50 wins
    Def Rtg: 103.8 (5th of 30)

    So how did Bran lose 3 straight to a team that won 11 less games?

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    Default Re: Was 2013 Game 7 the biggest carry in Finals history?

    Quote Originally Posted by ImKobe
    So how did Bran lose 3 straight to a team that won 11 less games?
    Cavs 2nd best player was a 37 yr old Shaq, one year away from retirement.

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    Default Re: Was 2013 Game 7 the biggest carry in Finals history?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    We aren't comparing role players to the top dog, only the top dogs.. no apples and oranges, only apples and apples

    And MJ was never a net negative like lebron - lebron won a Finals where his team lost with him on the floor!!!.. ..




    What a waste of time comparing 6/6 vs a dude who, in 16 seasons, never won a ring in a full NBA season without a bailout shot by a teammate?


    Facts.

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    Default Re: Was 2013 Game 7 the biggest carry in Finals history?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shaquille O'Neal
    What a waste of time comparing 6/6 vs a dude who, in 16 seasons, never won a ring in a full NBA season without a bailout shot by a teammate?


    Facts.
    Yeah we get it Shaq

    Was 2013 Game 7 the biggest carry in Finals history?

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    Default Re: Was 2013 Game 7 the biggest carry in Finals history?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
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    Heat ORtg[COLOR="White"]N[/COLOR] with Wade on floor:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 109.8
    Heat ORtg w/out Wade on floor:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] [COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR]87.3
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    ...............[COLOR="Navy"]Increase in team ORtg:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 22.5[/COLOR][COLOR="DarkGreen"]<--- link to NBA.com dara[/COLOR]


    Heat ORtg[COLOR="White"]N[/COLOR] with Lebron on floor:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 106.7
    Heat ORtg w/out Lebron on floor:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] [COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR]98.8
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    .....................[COLOR="Navy"]Increase in team ORtg:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR]7.9[/COLOR]
    How has literally no one called out 3ball on this? Are you really this retarded, 3ball? I'm pretty sure you even made this post into a thread, thinking that you found something new while wasting your life away on NBA.com's stats pages.

    That's the Heat's DEFENSIVE Rating with Wade and LeBron On/Off the court. According to DRtg, the Heat had a DRtg of 109.8 with Wade ON the Court and 87.3 with him OFF the court. To make it simpler, the Spurs scored at a rate of 109.8 points per 100 possessions with Wade ON the court and were held to 87.3 points per 100 possessions with Wade OFF the Court.

    Offensive rating? The Heat were a +16.5 with Wade OFF the court, according to ORtg.

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    Default Re: Was 2013 Game 7 the biggest carry in Finals history?

    Quote Originally Posted by aj1987
    How has literally no one called out 3ball on this? Are you really this retarded, 3ball? I'm pretty sure you even made this post into a thread, thinking that you found something new while wasting your life away on NBA.com's stats pages.

    That's the Heat's DEFENSIVE Rating with Wade and LeBron On/Off the court. According to DRtg, the Heat had a DRtg of 109.8 with Wade ON the Court and 87.3 with him OFF the court.

    Offensive rating? The Heat were a +16.5 with Wade OFF the court, according to ORtg.

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    Default Re: Was 2013 Game 7 the biggest carry in Finals history?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCorporation
    Well this is just plain hilarious

    Along Came Scottie (1-9) ring a bell?





    Also, he could never do something like this:



    MJ without Pippen is basically Harden

    Bloodbath

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    Default Re: Was 2013 Game 7 the biggest carry in Finals history?

    If you look at Game Score disparity between the #1 option (LeBron) and his next 3 options (Wade) (Bosh) and (Allen) you find the following:

    GameScore for Game 7, 2013 NBA Finals
    LeBron: 32.5
    Wade: 14.8
    Bosh: -2.1
    Allen: -2.6
    Difference: 22.4 (LeBron surpassed the three combined by 22.4)


    List of Finals carries:
    #1 2013 Game 7: Difference: +22.4 LeBron surpassed all three combined by 22.4


    Any others to add to the list?

    Game 7 2013 NBA Finals: LeBron
    ORtg: 144
    DRtg: 95

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    Default Re: Was 2013 Game 7 the biggest carry in Finals history?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCorporation

    Game 7 2013 NBA Finals: LeBron
    ORtg: 144
    DRtg: 95
    Wow...

    GOAT

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    Default Re: Was 2013 Game 7 the biggest carry in Finals history?

    MJ was much more dominant, so he didn't need a 7th game

    Lebron was horrible thru 6 games, so he needed 7

    It's that simple..

    And we don't really know how good Lebron is - a lucky bounce in 13' or 16' makes him 2/9 or 1/9, so we don't know if he's really 3/9 caliber.. he's likely 2/9 or 1/9 if luck didn't exist

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    Default Re: Was 2013 Game 7 the biggest carry in Finals history?

    So 2013 Game 6 was a bigger carry.

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    Default Re: Was 2013 Game 7 the biggest carry in Finals history?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cleverness
    So 2013 Game 6 was a bigger carry.
    That's when Ray Allen carried Lebron's career in the palm of his hand

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    Default Re: Was 2013 Game 7 the biggest carry in Finals history?

    Credit: The Corporation

    Well this is just plain hilarious

    Along Came Scottie (1-9) ring a bell?





    Also, he could never do something like this:



    MJ without Pippen is basically Harden


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    Default Re: Was 2013 Game 7 the biggest carry in Finals history?

    Quote Originally Posted by aj1987
    Credit: The Corporation

    Well this is just plain hilarious

    Along Came Scottie (1-9) ring a bell?





    Also, he could never do something like this:



    MJ without Pippen is basically Harden

    Woooooooo

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