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The Special One
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First Kobe fan on ISH
Re: So you telling me Billups went to 6 straight ECFs and 1 WCF to CP3's 0?
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Re: So you telling me Billups went to 6 straight ECFs and 1 WCF to CP3's 0?
The east is strong with this one.
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Expert Analyst
Re: So you telling me Billups went to 6 straight ECFs and 1 WCF to CP3's 0?
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Impartial NBA analyst
Re: So you telling me Billups went to 6 straight ECFs and 1 WCF to Chris Paul's 0?
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Serious playground baller
Re: So you telling me Billups went to 6 straight ECFs and 1 WCF to CP3's 0?
They didn't call him Mr. Big Shot for nothing, and to be fair that Pistons team was pretty legit back then. Was super upset that Dumars drafted Milicic over Carmelo though.
Can only imagine how many rings Melo would have right now
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Good High School Starter
Re: So you telling me Billups went to 6 straight ECFs and 1 WCF to CP3's 0?
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The Special One
Re: So you telling me Billups went to 6 straight ECFs and 1 WCF to CP3's 0?
Originally Posted by Mawly-G
They didn't call him Mr. Big Shot for nothing, and to be fair that Pistons team was pretty legit back then. Was super upset that Dumars drafted Milicic over Carmelo though.
Can only imagine how many rings Melo would have right now
Team ball > Hero ball
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Re: So you telling me Billups went to 6 straight ECFs and 1 WCF to CP3's 0?
Put CP3 in the East on that type of squad for all those years and see how many ECFs he gets to...
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The Beast In Me
Re: So you telling me Billups went to 6 straight ECFs and 1 WCF to CP3's 0?
Billups was a special player, no doubt. One of the more underrated stars of his era.
Absolutely shat on Kobe and Parker in consecutive years.
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Banned
Re: So you telling me Billups went to 6 straight ECFs and 1 WCF to CP3's 0?
Originally Posted by SwishSquared
Put CP3 in the East on that type of squad for all those years and see how many ECFs he gets to...
Assumptions,assumptions
Fact is he got bullied by Westbrook last playoffs...and did the worst chokejob in playoffs history this time around
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College star
Re: So you telling me Billups went to 6 straight ECFs and 1 WCF to CP3's 0?
As a #1 scoring option, Gus Williams (a scoring-type of PG) went to 2 Finals, won one of them while averaging 29 PPG on 49%, played in multiple 50+W's teams.
He spent his prime - 7 combined seasons - putting up 20/6, all-nba 1st once, 5th in MVP voting once...
The Wizard is vastly overlooked and look at some of the things he was doing... Doesn't mean I'd take Gus over CP3 or whatever...
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The Special One
Re: So you telling me Billups went to 6 straight ECFs and 1 WCF to CP3's 0?
Originally Posted by SwishSquared
Put CP3 in the East on that type of squad for all those years and see how many ECFs he gets to...
A trade happened, A.I. to Detroit and Billups to Denver. What happened?
Denver reached the 2009 WCF and they lost to Kobe and the Lakers.
Another thing CP3 has failed to achieve period.
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Re: So you telling me Billups went to 6 straight ECFs and 1 WCF to CP3's 0?
Originally Posted by BlakFrankWhite
Assumptions,assumptions
Fact is he got bullied by Westbrook last playoffs...and did the worst chokejob in playoffs history this time around
You say I'm making assumptions he'd advance further in the East yet you're assuming he'd have the same "ceiling" in terms of playoff success...
He choked in Game 5 last year and the whole team choked (and so did Doc, which many of us predicted last summer) vs. Houston. He's the leader so he gets blamed, rightly so. But you seriously think he couldn't have more success in a weaker conference? If not, that's shortsighted. CP3's a better player than Billups.
You're assuming he'd choke in tight games vs. worse competition. Haven't we said he/his team can beat inferior squads but he struggles against better opponents?
Also, not like Westbrook absolutely destroyed him- he had a pretty good series himself...lots of confirmation bias in this one.
And yes, Billups went to a WCF once. Not denying what he did as a player. People say other guys who play in the East would have less success in the West and those who play in the West would have more success in the East- so why can't CP3? Doesn't change for me that he/his team massively choked, but just food for thought...
Last edited by SwishSquared; 06-11-2015 at 01:36 PM.
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The Magic are a trash
Re: So you telling me Billups went to 6 straight ECFs and 1 WCF to CP3's 0?
Billups was a beast for a while
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