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The Deciders
2014 Team USA (Fiba) Vs 2004 Team USA Who do you got?
Time Machine game who do you take to win?
2004
Allen Iverson
Steph Marbury
Lamar Odom
Shawn Marion
Tim Duncan
Carlos Boozer
Richard Jefferson
Dwyane Wade
LeBron James
Amar'e Stoudemire
Carmelo Anthony
Emeka Okafor
2014
Kyrie Irving
Steph Curry
James Harden
Kenneth Faried
Anthony Davis
Klay Thompson
Demarcus Cousins
Derrick Rose
Rudy Gay
Mason Plumlee
DeMar Derozan
Andre Drummond
Last edited by Im so nba'd out; 09-11-2014 at 10:30 PM.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 2014 Team USA (Fiba) Vs 2004 Team USA Who do you got?
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Coach
Re: 2014 Team USA (Fiba) Vs 2004 Team USA Who do you got?
2014 is better built for FIBA. And Anthony Davis > Duncan in international competition.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 2014 Team USA (Fiba) Vs 2004 Team USA Who do you got?
Duncan wasn't the problem with that team. He'd be welcome on any team
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Coach
Re: 2014 Team USA (Fiba) Vs 2004 Team USA Who do you got?
Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You
Duncan wasn't the problem with that team. He'd be welcome on any team
Actually he was one of the problems. He was horrendous.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 2014 Team USA (Fiba) Vs 2004 Team USA Who do you got?
Put a different team and coach around him instead of a bunch of young knuckleheads and he'd have been fine.
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3-time NBA All-Star
Re: 2014 Team USA (Fiba) Vs 2004 Team USA Who do you got?
Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
Actually he was one of the problems. He was horrendous.
No, he really wasn't the problem. The team construction and coaching was the problem
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Coach
Re: 2014 Team USA (Fiba) Vs 2004 Team USA Who do you got?
Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You
Put a different team and coach around him instead of a bunch of young knuckleheads and he'd have been fine.
So what was the problem w/ the 2004 team?
Iverson was the best player. Duncan's ability to not get in foul trouble, score, and defend consistently is entirely dependant not on Tim himself, but his teammates / coaches? No wonder his rings are overrated.
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Kobe= 1st round loser
Re: 2014 Team USA (Fiba) Vs 2004 Team USA Who do you got?
Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
So what was the problem w/ the 2004 team?
Iverson was the best player. Duncan's ability to not get in foul trouble, score, and defend consistently is entirely dependant not on Tim himself, but his teammates / coaches? No wonder his rings are overrated.
Iverson better than Duncan? Lol wtf. Duncan is way better even at his old age now that the overrated no efficiency no defense player known as Iverson.
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Mullin >>> Bird
Re: 2014 Team USA (Fiba) Vs 2004 Team USA Who do you got?
duncan scored a couple less points total than AI and shot 20% better from the field, even though every opponent double teamed and trippled him because the outside shooters sucked (among them, the 35% shooting AI).
Is this kid even serious right now??
Last edited by Nowitness; 09-11-2014 at 08:51 PM.
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Coach
Re: 2014 Team USA (Fiba) Vs 2004 Team USA Who do you got?
Originally Posted by oarabbus
No, he really wasn't the problem. The team construction and coaching was the problem
I didn't say THE problem. I said his performance was a problem. And it was, he was our best player but wasn't performing like it. How is that not one of the issues that plagued us?
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NBA Legend
Re: 2014 Team USA (Fiba) Vs 2004 Team USA Who do you got?
Duncan was shit in the summer of '04. No way around it.
Team USA in 2004 and 2006 are absolute embarrassments. Just a shameful exhibition of basketball. Glad they decided to bring in the big guns post 2006, dramatically changing the culture into what once was #winning
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 2014 Team USA (Fiba) Vs 2004 Team USA Who do you got?
Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
So what was the problem w/ the 2004 team?
Iverson was the best player. Duncan's ability to not get in foul trouble, score, and defend consistently is entirely dependant not on Tim himself, but his teammates / coaches? No wonder his rings are overrated.
AI would be on no team I was building nor would Marbury(outside the Chinese league anyway I guess! LOL). The team was way too young. Larry Brown was the wrong guy for the gig.
Last edited by Xiao Yao You; 09-11-2014 at 09:08 PM.
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Coach
Re: 2014 Team USA (Fiba) Vs 2004 Team USA Who do you got?
Originally Posted by Nowitness
duncan scored a couple less points total than AI and shot 20% better from the field, even though every opponent double teamed and trippled him because the outside shooters sucked (among them, the 35% shooting AI).
Is this kid even serious right now??
We expect more out of our best players, don't we son?
Always with the excuse making for Tim Duncan. He played bad in the summer of 2004. No amount of back pedaling can change that, just accept it, and acknowledge it. He wasn't the problem, but he didn't help matters.
That's the point I was making.
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Mullin >>> Bird
Re: 2014 Team USA (Fiba) Vs 2004 Team USA Who do you got?
Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
We expect more out of our best players, don't we son?
Always with the excuse making for Tim Duncan. He played bad in the summer of 2004. No amount of back pedaling can change that, just accept it, and acknowledge it. He wasn't the problem, but he didn't help matters.
That's the point I was making.
so...give me specifics.
he didnt perform like the world's best player.
but he put up a good performance that did nothing to hurt his legacy. like i said, teams were trippling him because AI, jefferson, wade, whoever couldnt hit a shot.
duncan averaged 13 points on 56 % shooting and hes a miserable failure.. kobe averages 15 points on 46% shooting and hes a god. jordan averages 15 points on 45% shooting and hes a god.
Last edited by Nowitness; 09-11-2014 at 09:18 PM.
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