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    Default Re: forget finals records...without pippen jordan doesn't have a winning season

    Quote Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
    i dont think pippen is a better player than MJ

    but he is more capable of playing without another hall of fame legendary sidekick

    the 94 bulls didnt have any other player in the top 100 all time
    When you are trained by the GOAT, you can do amazing things. Jordan made pippen. No other player had the luxury of going against MJ every day in practice as much as Pippen did. That's what enabled him to do what he did in 94. At the end of the day, all the credit still goes to Jordan!

    Same can't be said for Kobe or Bron. What guy left their team to be the most dominant the next season?

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    Default Re: forget finals records...without pippen jordan doesn't have a winning season

    Quote Originally Posted by Straight_Ballin
    When you are trained by the GOAT, you can do amazing things. Jordan made pippen. No other player had the luxury of going against MJ every day in practice as much as Pippen did. That's what enabled him to do what he did in 94. At the end of the day, all the credit still goes to Jordan!

    Same can't be said for Kobe or Bron. What guy left their team to be the most dominant the next season?
    Shaq almost won MVP in '05

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    Default Re: forget finals records...without pippen jordan doesn't have a winning season

    Quote Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
    Shaq almost won MVP in '05
    Almost doesn't cut it and Kobe was Shaq's pippen.

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    Default Re: forget finals records...without pippen jordan doesn't have a winning season

    Quote Originally Posted by Straight_Ballin
    Almost doesn't cut it and Kobe was Shaq's pippen.
    Shaq in '05 came closer to winning MVP than Pippen did in '94

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    Default Re: forget finals records...without pippen jordan doesn't have a winning season

    Quote Originally Posted by Straight_Ballin
    Almost doesn't cut it and Kobe was Shaq's pippen.
    except in 4th quarters,game 7's or when they played sanantionio/sacramento

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    Default Re: forget finals records...without pippen jordan doesn't have a winning season

    Jordan would never win a title without pippen. Bron will never win without Wade.
    Kobe will AND DID win a championship without Shaq

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    Default Re: forget finals records...without pippen jordan doesn't have a winning season

    Quote Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
    Que?



    Here is my another question. What if pippen left the bulls instead of MJ, MJ wouldn't have winning season in 94?

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    Default Re: forget finals records...without pippen jordan doesn't have a winning season

    Jordan doesn't have a winning season without Pippen, but Pippen has multiple winning seasons without Jordan


    sounds like Jordan was the Pau Gasol of that relationship.

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    Default Re: forget finals records...without pippen jordan doesn't have a winning season

    Quote Originally Posted by DonDadda59
    So a rookie Pippen putting up 8 points per game coming off the bench gets credit for the Bulls 50 win season where Jordan won MVP, DPOY, the scoring title, steals title, etc and so on? Dem intangibles and leadership

    And then you give Pippen credit for the Bulls record 'staying the same' without Jordan in '94... yet don't bring up the fact that in '95 the Bulls had a 34-31 record before he came but and then his first full season back with the team they set the NBA record with a 72-10 record and actually won the 'ship.

    Also, the Bulls won 62 games in '98 when Pip was out half the season after back surgery. MJ, just like a decade earlier, won MVP, the scoring title, and finals MVP at age 35.

    Hey OP... what's Bean's record without Derek Fisher?

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    Default Re: forget finals records...without pippen jordan doesn't have a winning season

    Quote Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
    why is it every time i post facts. its considered trolling.

    i consider trolling as a person who lies with bold faced outlandish claims in a manner that comes across as seeming as though they actually believe what they're saying. so much so that it irritates someone to the point of a total meltdown.

    i and many others are fully aware of the facts presented in this thread. i'm just reiterating them to gauge public interest and inform those who would otherwise have never come across such information. i assure you i am neither lying or trolling.

    good day sir
    This nikka said facts, lol. Nothing in your op is fact. Straight up injustice is what this bs is. You do realize pippen was in his prime in 94 right? Like his absolute peak prime too. And that the Bulls just came off a 3-peat, meaning the team had a solid cast of players, unlike you know, the lottery team surrounding MJ his first few seasons and the crapcast as a Wizard.

    Pippen also had Phil who did a great job at, again, building a solid team tailored for his system that seemed to apparently work pretty damn well. While on the other hand, MJ had joe shmoes trying to figure out if they're even coaching the right sport.

    And then the blazers, who were already a WCF team the season before, basically exchanged Isaiah Rider for Steve Smith (upgrade), Jim Jackson for Pippen (upgrade) and Walt Williams for Detlef (upgrade). You do the math.

    It's like, way to point out the obvious. It's not that serious except you trying to push your agenda like a bonafide douche.

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    Default Re: forget finals records...without pippen jordan doesn't have a winning season

    Quote Originally Posted by ImKobe
    Jordan doesn't have a winning season without Pippen, but Pippen has multiple winning seasons without Jordan


    sounds like Jordan was the Pau Gasol of that relationship.
    Those 6 Finals MVP's would say otherwise

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