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Old 03-30-2011, 03:14 AM   #16
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Default Re: Kobe Pump Fake .VS D-Wade Pump Fake [Which is better?]

Nothing beats Jordan's one hand pump fake, dude was so crafty with palming the ball, he would just stick the ball up with one hand and everyone would bite.

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@2:20 even the camera man bites
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B7U74Dg04k

and that's at 40yo

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Old 03-30-2011, 04:02 AM   #17
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Nothing beats Jordan's one hand pump fake, dude was so crafty with palming the ball, he would just stick the ball up with one hand and everyone would bite.

@1:22
@2:20 even the camera man bites
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B7U74Dg04k

and that's at 40yo

I agree but let's be real here....Jordans hands were pretty big. An inch or so advantage over guys like Kobe and Wade is pretty large. I know it doesn't mean anything, but if Kobe had hands like those, he'd be doing the same.
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Old 03-30-2011, 04:54 AM   #18
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If you didn't catch the sarcasm in my post... then you are even dumper than I thought.

LOL that was ****ing funny
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Old 03-30-2011, 05:36 AM   #19
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Default Re: Kobe Pump Fake .VS D-Wade Pump Fake [Which is better?]

Kobe's is obviously better but are people really that retarded to state the obvious? "Kobe looks to score, Wade looks to get a foul" look at the damn videos Wade himself is telling you he wants to draw the foul... Kobe's pump fake is way better but he's not always gonna score meanwhile Wade will get that foul 4 times out of 5.
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Old 03-30-2011, 06:19 AM   #20
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Nothing beats Jordan's one hand pump fake, dude was so crafty with palming the ball, he would just stick the ball up with one hand and everyone would bite.

@1:22
@2:20 even the camera man bites
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B7U74Dg04k

and that's at 40yo

that was a funny video. @ john rogers taking MJ to school
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Old 03-30-2011, 07:04 AM   #21
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D-Wade's and it ain't even a debate.

Wade > Kobe.
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Old 03-30-2011, 07:43 AM   #22
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Kobe's is obviously better but are people really that retarded to state the obvious?.




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Old 03-30-2011, 08:14 AM   #23
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Kobe's pump fake and foot work when he drives and stops around the FT line is really special to watch. I'm not even a Kobe fan but I try to watch Lakers games when I can b/c it's enjoyable to see his skillset at work.

By the same token, Wade's penetrating ability, body control and stutter step/euro step is amazing to watch and even if I wasn't a Wade fan I'd watch it just like I watch Kobe.

Why do trolls like Hogan always have to ruin it by making threads bashing other top players? Each of them has amazing parts to their game, just enjoy them all while you can.
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Old 03-30-2011, 09:38 AM   #24
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Wade learned the pump fake from watching Kobe. Now, it's such a popular thing to do. The master is always better than the student.

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Old 03-30-2011, 10:04 AM   #25
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If you didn't catch the sarcasm in my post... then you are even dumper than I thought.

Wade's pump fake is to get a whistle from the referees while Kobe is to bypass the defender and score.

Kobe's is actually a skill...

Example look at Kobe's Pump Fake at work: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpusw...eature=related

We see Wade's everyday and we distaste of it... Jumping into a defender even if they are 5 feet away from you is not a SKILL!

Personally, I think Paul Pierce is known for this more than Wade. It's Pierce's signature move. Wade does do it a lot though. But a big part of Wade's game overall, whether shooting or driving, is looking to the refs to bail him out. He's probably the most obnoxious player in this regard.

Kobe does it from time-to-time too. He's not innocent of it. But he doesn't rely on it anywhere close to the amount that Pierce and dwhistle do.

It's stupid, and bad for the game, that a shooter deliberately jumping into a defender who is already in the air is somehow a foul against the defender. The shooter jumps into them. It's the shooter's fault. It should not be called a foul on the defender. And it's very obvious when they do it.
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Old 03-30-2011, 10:25 AM   #26
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lol Hulk.. oh boy

You didn't get my sarcasm, I knew where you were going with it. duh.

It's obvious that this is a skill Kobe has over Wade. As Wade has obvious skills over Kobe.

No he doesn't!
Phil said it himself, Kobe has better BB skills than even Jordan!
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Old 03-30-2011, 10:28 AM   #27
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yeah Kobe's the best in everything in this world.
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Old 03-30-2011, 10:33 AM   #28
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In the video, Wade says that the purpose is to get the defender off their feet, so they can't defend like they would if they were standing. He can draw the foul, drive or just pull up and hit that jumper. Kobe's is different too. In terms of the way it looks, Kobe's is better. But, they are on similar levels, and I don't see Kobe doing that every game, because it's not that easy.
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Old 03-30-2011, 10:42 AM   #29
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In the video, Wade says that the purpose is to get the defender off their feet, so they can't defend like they would if they were standing. He can draw the foul, drive or just pull up and hit that jumper. Kobe's is different too. In terms of the way it looks, Kobe's is better. But, they are on similar levels, and I don't see Kobe doing that every game, because it's not that easy.

You are a fool... Wade does it for the sole purpose of getting a whistle, not by getting the defender off his feet. That's why he tries it multiple times and fails during a typical game. For example when the defender jumps straight up, he passes it off mid air cause he knows he cant draw the contact. He tries it numerous times during a game, you must be blind if you don't perceive that!

This happens every damn game, happened last night. Wade has no intentions of bypassing his defender with the pump fake.

Finally yes Kobe does it every night, he does several different versions of it.

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Old 03-30-2011, 10:46 AM   #30
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WOW! There is actually a thread comparing...pump fakes?
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