Will the CP3/Nash/Lebron/Harden/Westbrok brand of ball-dominance ever win organicaly?

[3ball]

Or will the relegation of teammates to spot-up shooters forever suppress teammate development, thus requiring ready-made stars/teams acquired via team-hopping??

Essentially, will these guys always have to team-hop for ready-made teams because their style can't develop a team or elite brand of ball?...

It's a stark contrast from the organic championships that Curry, MJ, Kawhi and Kobe won - aka, guys that are skilled enough to achieve elite production without dominating the ball/reducing teammates to spot-up role... and while playing off of/enhancing teammates
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[Turbo Slayer]

The difference is Lebron won 3 rings while CP3/Nash/Harden/Westbrook hasn't won a single ring.

So Lebron is a winner compared to the rest.

3ball, I love you man BUT PLEASEEE stop creating old, boring threads. You literally created the same, exact thread.

[3ball]

[COLOR="black"]The difference is Lebron won 3 rings[/COLOR]

You apparently didn't read the thread title.. Lebron won by teaming up with stars... ... So not organically

We already know that Nash/Lebron turns teammates into spot-up shooters, which doesn't develop teammates and requires ready-made stars/teams via team-hopping

So the thread title asks:

Or will the relegation of teammates to spot-up shooters forever suppress teammate development, thus requiring ready-made stars/teams acquired via team-hopping??

Essentially, will these guys always have to team-hop for ready-made teams because their style can't develop a team or elite brand of ball?...

It's a stark contrast from the organic championships that Curry, MJ, Kawhi and Kobe won - aka, guys that are skilled enough to achieve elite production without dominating the ball/reducing teammates to spot-up role... and while playing off of/enhancing teammates

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[RRR3]

Your posts don’t make any sense. Kobe was very ball dominant.

[ImKobe]

No because basketball is a team sport and you need teammates to be engaged in order to win consistently.

Your posts don’t make any sense. Kobe was very ball dominant.

Kobe played however his team needed him to play in order to win. He might have been more ball-dominant against faster-paced garbage defensive teams like the Suns in 2010 but he would do whatever got his team the win. Of course he chucked it up when he had mediocre teammates around him and they were trailing in a game, him getting hot usually opens things up for his teammates and gives his team momentum.

[3ball]

Your posts don’t make any sense. Kobe was very ball dominant.

Not as much as Lebron.. Lebron was 387th out of 400 players for catch-and-shoot frequency

https://stats.nba.com/players/spot-u...POSS_PCT&dir=1


Otoh, Kobe was a great shooter and could play off-ball with catch-and-shoot.. he was also a dominant post player.

Most importantly, Kobe is a guard, so his ball-dominance isn't as abnormal for his position as Lebron - this matters because it's the abnormal ball-dominance above what the position normally does that gives teammates less time with the ball then they get on "normal" teams where there isn't abnormal ball-dominance at any position

[Manny98]

LeBrons time of possession is nowhere near Harden and Westbrook

Curry has a higher time of possession than LeBron and he's supposed to have the "GOAT brand of basketball"

[Depression]

LeBrons time of possession is nowhere near Harden and Westbrook

Curry has a higher time of possession than LeBron and he's supposed to have the "GOAT brand of basketball"

LeFraud is 3/9. L

Crazy Lebron stans

[3ball]

LeBrons time of possession is nowhere near Harden and Westbrook

Curry has a higher time of possession than LeBron and he's supposed to have the "GOAT brand of basketball"

Lebron matches them in the playoffs and his Finals are the highest time of possession ever

And Curry's ball-dominance isn't abnormal for his position like Lebron's at forward - this matters because it's the abnormal ball-dominance above what the position normally does that gives teammates less time with the ball then they get on "normal" teams where there isn't abnormal ball-dominance at any position

[ImKobe]

LeBrons time of possession is nowhere near Harden and Westbrook

Curry has a higher time of possession than LeBron and he's supposed to have the "GOAT brand of basketball"

False

Lebron was ahead of both Westbrook and Harden in time of possession in the last Playoffs he played and has been ahead of Curry the last 3 seasons and in every single Playoffs since 2015.

Finals numbers are even more staggering.

12.2 in 2015 to Curry's 7.7
7.9 in 2016 to Curry's 5.8
8.2 in 2017 to Curry's 6.2 and KD's 4.8
11.5 in 2018 to Curry's 7.1 and KD's 4.8

That's ridiculous. KD and Curry combined had the ball about as much as Lebron himself in the 2018 Finals. Compare that to Kawhi having only a 5.3 in the 2019 Finals.

[Nashty]

Why did Jordan win only 6 rings while the G.O.A.T. Bill Russell won 11?

[AirBonner]

What is organic? Retiring till a team loads up with talent then returning from retirement right before the playoffs to join said loaded team?

[Turbo Slayer]

In your title, you spelled Westbrook wrong. Instead, you spelled ''Westbrok''



Most overrated poster ever.

[MrFonzworth]

In your title, you spelled Westbrook wrong. Instead, you spelled ''Westbrok''



Most overrated poster ever.

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[Turbo Slayer]

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