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    Default Re: 4 MVPs cant replace those 4 Losses in the Final

    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Colangelo
    Averages more points than Kobe in the playoffs on better percentages
    Who have more rings? Who bust your 3rd round virgin pathetic franchise with 81 points??

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    Default Re: 4 MVPs cant replace those 4 Losses in the Final

    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Colangelo
    Averages more points than Kobe in the playoffs on better percentages
    highest ppg in history of the nba in elimination games.

    but choker doe

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    Default Re: 4 MVPs cant replace those 4 Losses in the Final

    Quote Originally Posted by Real14
    Who have more rings? Who bust your 3rd round virgin pathetic franchise with 81 points??
    that is cool and all but Lebron doesn't have the luxury of having another superstar on his roster capable of posting 30ppg in playoffs and constant double teams.

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    Default Re: 4 MVPs cant replace those 4 Losses in the Final

    Quote Originally Posted by Nash
    that is cool and all but Lebron doesn't have the luxury of having another superstar on his roster capable of posting 30ppg in playoffs and constant double teams.
    Maybe cuz Lebron has to be the man and he don't want nobody to outshine him by turn other all stars into jump shooters, you remember the 2011 finals?

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    Default Re: 4 MVPs cant replace those 4 Losses in the Final

    this is like saying Jordan's 1 ring over Pistons can't replace the other 3 times he lost to them..

    well, no, it can't.. but in the majority of arguments it's not a significant point..

    bottom line is, Heat aren't in the Finals in 2011 without LeBron, ditto 2014 (not even sure they'd make 8th without him that year) and the Cavs sure as hell aren't in 2015 Finals without Bron, or 2009 conference finals (scratch that: playoffs) and losing 4-2 vs. Celts is only two games worse than Kobe's 4-3 that year, while Bron's 2008 4-3 loss is superior to Kobe's 4-2 loss even tho Kobe has a better team... doesn't even mean Bron is better than Kobe either, these are just the way things went... none of it necessarily proves anything... just like Kobe and Shaq losing to a combination of lower tier greats on the Pistons doesn't mean you take the Pistons roster over having Kobe&Shaq... in that one particular year, yeah, but year in and year out?

    the fact is, anybody who wouldn't want Wilt Chamberlain or LeBron James on their team in a quest to win a ring... is somebody who understands very little at all about basketball... like, god help this person in talking the effects of specific X and Os strategies if they can't even wrap their head around general impact...
    Last edited by superteamtheory; 07-31-2015 at 02:04 PM.

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    Default Re: 4 MVPs cant replace those 4 Losses in the Final

    Quote Originally Posted by Hey Yo
    It was still Shaq's team up until the 2004 Finals when Kobe took it upon himself that he'd be first option. We both know how that played out.

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    Default Re: 4 MVPs cant replace those 4 Losses in the Final

    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Colangelo
    Averages more points than Kobe in the playoffs on better percentages
    In the eastern conference.
    Kobe beat more 50+ win teams in one playoff appearance than LeBron has in a decade.

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    Default Re: 4 MVPs cant replace those 4 Losses in the Final

    Quote Originally Posted by theoneneo
    Plays in the Eastern conference

    What Lebron playoff averages look like in the Finals tho?

    Kobe dominated teams that beat Lebron

    And before you ****s post Kobe's finals averages, please understand that the teams from the East that Kobe faced in his last two runs both eliminated Bron from the playoffs. So you can't even use this excuse.
    vs '09 Magic
    LeBron: 39/8/8 49%
    Kobe: 32/6/7 43%

    vs '10 Celtics
    LeBron: 27/9/7 45%
    Kobe: 29/8/4 41%

    Career Finals averages
    LeBron: 27/9/7 46%
    Kobe: 25/6/5 42%

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    Default Re: 4 MVPs cant replace those 4 Losses in the Final

    Quote Originally Posted by West-Side
    In the eastern conference.
    Kobe beat more 50+ win teams in one playoff appearance than LeBron has in a decade.
    Kobe vs "weak" East in playoffs: 25.2 points on 41.7%.
    Bron vs "tough" West in playoffs:26.7 points on 45.6%.
    Stop with bullshit.

    Edit: SouthBeachTalents beat me to it.
    Last edited by Bankaii; 07-31-2015 at 03:27 PM.

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