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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Rick Carlisle thinks Lebron is up there with Jordan
He's right. The closest thing to Jordan EVER.
Carlisle knows his ball.
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Re: Rick Carlisle thinks Lebron is up there with Jordan
Originally Posted by FKAri
He produced one of the best comedies in recent years: 2011 Lakers vs Mavs.
Carlisle > ISH
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Expert Analyst
Re: Rick Carlisle thinks Lebron is up there with Jordan
He meant his hairline is up there. Dont leave out the important context man
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Re: Rick Carlisle thinks Lebron is up there with Jordan
Carlisle easily a top 5 coach rn, maybe number 2 after Pop. I think his opinion is more valued than anyone's opinion on here.
Lebron is the only guy right now who can catch MJ, i dont know/think kd can, AD maybe but idk if he will do it.
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It is what it is
Re: Rick Carlisle thinks Lebron is up there with Jordan
Originally Posted by nzahir
Carlisle easily a top 5 coach rn, maybe number 2 after Pop. I think his opinion is more valued than anyone's opinion on here.
Lebron is the only guy right now who can catch MJ, i dont know/think kd can, AD maybe but idk if he will do it.
Catch him how? We already saw the best of LeBron, he's clearly declining, a couple of years ago you wouldn't dream of single covering him. While peak LeBron was maybe the best player since Shaq, he never reached MJ level of dominance, that's just a fact.
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jordan > leflop james
Re: Rick Carlisle thinks Lebron is up there with Jordan
Originally Posted by Fudge
He's right. The closest thing to Jordan EVER.
Carlisle knows his ball.
leflop lack of skills
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jordan > leflop james
Re: Rick Carlisle thinks Lebron is up there with Jordan
Originally Posted by nzahir
Carlisle easily a top 5 coach rn, maybe number 2 after Pop. I think his opinion is more valued than anyone's opinion on here.
Lebron is the only guy right now who can catch MJ, i dont know/think kd can, AD maybe but idk if he will do it.
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Re: Rick Carlisle thinks Lebron is up there with Jordan
he isn't wrong. notice that he used the words 'all around'? this is something i have been saying how long now? everybody recognizes jordan as a great scorer, ofc, but there's a reason pippen was THE lead playmaker and defensive player on the bulls. jordan didn't have the basketball 'feel' lebron has, this while coming into the nba from highschool. its innate - something you cannot teach.
realistically all lebron needs is one, maybe two titles in cleveland - and the media will be proclaiming him as goat. they're desperate as it is, but 2 titles doesn't appeal to casuals. ring counting is WOAT.
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I usually hit open layups
Re: Rick Carlisle thinks Lebron is up there with Jordan
Originally Posted by FKAri
He produced one of the best comedies in recent years: 2011 Lakers vs Mavs.
boom.
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I usually hit open layups
Re: Rick Carlisle thinks Lebron is up there with Jordan
Originally Posted by mehyaM24
he isn't wrong. notice that he used the words 'all around'? this is something i have been saying how long now? everybody recognizes jordan as a great scorer, ofc, but there's a reason pippen was THE lead playmaker and defensive player on the bulls. jordan didn't have the basketball 'feel' lebron has, this while coming into the nba from highschool. its innate - something you cannot teach.
realistically all lebron needs is one, maybe two titles in cleveland - and the media will be proclaiming him as goat. they're desperate as it is, but 2 titles doesn't appeal to casuals. ring counting is WOAT.
I don't think 1 is gonna do it man... he's gonna need at least 2 more prolly 3...
and then they'll still point to 6 or the stats or the defences or something...
like Gregg Propsovich said, they'll always find something with LBJ ...
Carslisle: "He's Jordan-like."
Popovich: "He's at least Magic,Larry and Duncan like."
3Ball: His teams aren't elite basketball IQ like Carslisle and Pop's teams ... but the coach / head mind of those elite teams I reference doesn't know what he's talking about ...
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It is what it is
Re: Rick Carlisle thinks Lebron is up there with Jordan
Originally Posted by mehyaM24
he isn't wrong. notice that he used the words 'all around'? this is something i have been saying how long now? everybody recognizes jordan as a great scorer, ofc, but there's a reason pippen was THE lead playmaker and defensive player on the bulls. jordan didn't have the basketball 'feel' lebron has, this while coming into the nba from highschool. its innate - something you cannot teach.
realistically all lebron needs is one, maybe two titles in cleveland - and the media will be proclaiming him as goat. they're desperate as it is, but 2 titles doesn't appeal to casuals. ring counting is WOAT.
Now that he's declining, it's a real possibility that he doesn't win another title. There are a ton of variables, luck and health (his/his teammates) being a couple of them. Wilt was even more dominant (stats wise) than LeBron or MJ and he ended up with only two.
Not hating at all but winning two titles would put him barely at .500, the media can push him as GOAT but fans won't buy it. There was a window where he could've really made a mark and clearly put his name in the GOAT conversation, then after colluding, he had maybe the worst NBA Finals a superstar ever had in 2011. He redeemed himself with a back to back but he's lost his last two Fonals in a row. Let's be honest, 2/6 is not GOAT worthy no matter how you cut it. Even Wilt has a tough time getting GOAT love with those insane numbers but underwhelming Finals outcomes.
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National High School Star
Re: Rick Carlisle thinks Lebron is up there with Jordan
Originally Posted by TheMan
Now that he's declining, it's a real possibility that he doesn't win another title. There are a ton of variables, luck and health (his/his teammates) being a couple of them. Wilt was even more dominant (stats wise) than LeBron or MJ and he ended up with only two.
Not hating at all but winning two titles would put him barely at .500, the media can push him as GOAT but fans won't buy it. There was a window where he could've really made a mark and clearly put his name in the GOAT conversation, then after colluding, he had maybe the worst NBA Finals a superstar ever had in 2011. He redeemed himself with a back to back but he's lost his last two Fonals in a row. Let's be honest, 2/6 is not GOAT worthy no matter how you cut it. Even Wilt has a tough time getting GOAT love with those insane numbers but underwhelming Finals outcomes.
Peakwise it's VERY close, the closest I've seen from another wing player, although I think MJ was slightly better overall. I think that's what Carlisle is referring to
Last edited by Kvnzhangyay; 07-22-2015 at 12:41 AM.
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GOAT
Re: Rick Carlisle thinks Lebron is up there with Jordan
Originally Posted by SpecialQue
The only time Lebron will ever be "up there" with Jordan is when the Heat retire Lebron's jersey.
I say damn, son!
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I go HAM
Re: Rick Carlisle thinks Lebron is up there with Jordan
Originally Posted by FKAri
He produced one of the best comedies in recent years: 2011 Lakers vs Mavs.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Rick Carlisle thinks Lebron is up there with Jordan
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