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    Default Re: Does anyone actually support Guaranteed Contracts?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcastic
    NBA owners WANT guaranteed contracts. Otherwise a player can get a nice big front loaded contract, tank, get cut, and go to the team he really wants to. Guaranteed contracts prevent scenarios like this from happening.


    And all the examples you are providing is of players who got hurt - Amare, Arenas, Bynum. The teams have insurance on their contracts when they don't play a certain number of games, so stop worrying about the owners' bank accounts.

    Do you really think that teams are gonna cut $15m-$20m players and take that cap hit?

    You do realize NFL teams take cap hits when they release players, no?
    I think it's already been established he has zero idea how the NFL system actually works....

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    Whether contracts are guaranteed or not the players that the league is comprised of are going to be almost exactly the same. The only difference it makes is how easy it is for individual teams to rebuild. But with the same players how does the overall talent level change? It doesn't.
    Thats just thing thing....

    If the Kings cut Rudy Gay....

    They are worse(probably...though the Grizzlies might argue).

    The team he signs with likely improves.

    Are they gonna...sign some star to replace him?

    Where does he come from? someone elses team....

    The league wouldnt get better. There would just be a lot more movement.

    A bad GM is gonna **** you over even if he can erase a deal after a few years. Most of them still wouldnt want to. Its just admitting a ****up.

    The NFL is a very very different system. 40 guys go out for the season every week...and get cut later. They might have 75 guys on the roster before a season is over. Its a lot of shakeup.

    The NBa couldnt realistically do it that way. And individual players make too much difference.

    If you could just shed contracts...

    How many teams clear cap space before 2010 free agency?

    It would be chaos.

    The NBa would never play it NFL style. Their idea of non guaranteed contracts is probably upping the number of team options in a max contract from 1 to 2.

    It wouldnt be a fundamentally different set of rules.

    Just make it a bit easier to wash your hands of a guy.

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    Default Re: Does anyone actually support Guaranteed Contracts?

    Here are the top 30 contracts:

    1. Kobe Bryant $23,500,000
    2. Amare Stoudemire $23,410,988
    3. Joe Johnson $23,180,790
    4. Carmelo Anthony $22,458,401
    5. Dwight Howard $21,436,271
    6. LeBron James $20,644,400
    6. Chris Bosh $20,644,400
    8. Chris Paul $20,068,563
    9. Kevin Durant $19,997,513
    10. Deron Williams $19,754,465
    11. Rudy Gay $19,317,326
    12. Derrick Rose $18,862,876
    13. Blake Griffin $17,632,688
    14. Carlos Boozer $16,800,000
    15. Zach Randolph $16,500,000
    16. Marc Gasol $15,829,688
    17. Paul George $15,800,000
    18. Kevin Love $15,719,063
    19. Russell Westbrook $15,719,062
    20. Brook Lopez $15,719,000
    21. LaMarcus Aldridge $15,200,000
    22. David Lee $15,012,000
    23. Dwyane Wade $15,000,000
    24. Roy Hibbert $14,898,938
    24. Jeremy Lin $14,898,938
    24. Omer Asik $14,898,938
    24. Eric Gordon $14,898,938
    28. Gordon Hayward $14,746,000
    29. Chandler Parsons $14,700,000
    30. James Harden $14,693,906

    Honestly I'm not sure any of those would really be cut. Each of the teams has an interest in keeping some of those players around, and the value gained from cutting them would be only to save the owner some money. I don't think an owner like Dolan would cut Amar'e just to save money. I think he would rather ride it out and see if he gets healthy. I think also in Joe Johnson's case, the Nets would keep him around as a star attraction at least. What do they get by cutting him? They are actively trying to make the playoffs. Cutting him would mean they are going into tank mode, and would make it harder to sell tickets.

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    Default Re: Does anyone actually support Guaranteed Contracts?

    Can you imagine NY and LA teams in this scenario?

    "Hey Lebron/Durant/(any future superstar), come to NY/LA, and we'll shed every contract you want, so that you can play with whoever you want".

    Meanwhile other stars are tanking to get cut and join up with Lebron/Durant.

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    Default Re: Does anyone actually support Guaranteed Contracts?

    It would hurt the role players more than the stars...even the former stars.A big name lends credibility to your efforts. Maybe it shouldnt be this way but....you cut Deron Williams im not sure your fans take you serious when you say you want to make the playoffs.

    Even if he isnt worth 20 million today.

    It would be joke teams doing this. And a lot of big contracts on joke teams...are there for the express purpose of expiring in time to go after someone.

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    Default Re: Does anyone actually support Guaranteed Contracts?

    Nba teams need stability in star power more than the nfl. The nfl relies mostly on the QB being the face of the franchise.

    Some of you are siding with billionaire owners that make a ton of money off players. These guys aren't hurting for money at all.

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    Default Re: Does anyone actually support Guaranteed Contracts?

    Quote Originally Posted by MavsSuperFan
    The NFL is by far the most successful of the 4 major american pro sports leagues
    Still doesn't change the fact that half of their players are criminals and many of their retired players die prematurely or have severe mental/physical disabilities.

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