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    Default Re: Scottie Pippen: Ultimate Defender

    Pippen and Tim Duncan are the best defenders to never win DPOY and I would definitely take them over most DPOY winners.

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    Default Re: Scottie Pippen: Ultimate Defender

    Quote Originally Posted by I<3NBA
    I would say Kobe is the ultimate defender. he is able to stop his 4 teammates from scoring.


    I would say you're a loser. But you'll keep at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toizumi
    Pippen and Tim Duncan are the best defenders to never win DPOY and I would definitely take them over most DPOY winners.


    I don't know but the only year Duncan has a great argument to win was 07...and it's not because he had a great argument but because no one stood out and people talk shit on Camby, without much basis.

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    Pippen not winning a DPOY was a travesty. Especially in 95. What he did that year was more impressive than Kobe 06 season and Wades 09 season. Or Mcgradys 03 season. He was everything for that team.

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    Default Re: Scottie Pippen: Ultimate Defender

    Quote Originally Posted by 97 bulls
    Pippen not winning a DPOY was a travesty. Especially in 95. What he did that year was more impressive than Kobe 06 season and Wades 09 season. Or Mcgradys 03 season. He was everything for that team.
    Are you f*cking high?

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    Default Re: Scottie Pippen: Ultimate Defender

    Quote Originally Posted by Doranku
    Are you f*cking high?
    What makes their season more impressive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 97 bulls
    Pippen not winning a DPOY was a travesty. Especially in 95. What he did that year was more impressive than Kobe 06 season and Wades 09 season. Or Mcgradys 03 season. He was everything for that team.
    Which seasons do you think he should've won DPOY? I think he should have at least one award (and is arguably the only non-big who should have won, since he anchored those elite Bulls defenses).

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    Default Re: Scottie Pippen: Ultimate Defender

    Quote Originally Posted by Doranku
    Are you f*cking high?
    pip took them to the ecf. wade, kobe and t-mac had great stats on bad teams.

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    Default Re: Scottie Pippen: Ultimate Defender

    Quote Originally Posted by fpliii
    Which seasons do you think he should've won DPOY? I think he should have at least one award (and is arguably the only non-big who should have won, since he anchored those elite Bulls defenses).
    95 and/or 96
    imho payton was never a better defender than pip.

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    Default Re: Scottie Pippen: Ultimate Defender

    Quote Originally Posted by Doranku
    Are you f*cking high?
    Kobe and Wade were (and ARE) infinitely better scorers, but Pip was THE best perimeter defender in '94 and a superior playmaker / rebounder. Took his team deeper into the postseason vs. BETTER competition too.

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    Default Re: Scottie Pippen: Ultimate Defender

    Kinda tough being DPOY when you're the 2nd best defender on your team.

    [COLOR="White"]Yeah I went there.[/COLOR]

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    Default Re: Scottie Pippen: Ultimate Defender

    Quote Originally Posted by fpliii
    Which seasons do you think he should've won DPOY? I think he should have at least one award (and is arguably the only non-big who should have won, since he anchored those elite Bulls defenses).
    Absolutely 95. His team had a better record than Mutombos, He lead the league in defensive rating, steals, avg a block a game, was his teams best man, help, trap, full court, and even low post defender.

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    Default Re: Scottie Pippen: Ultimate Defender

    Quote Originally Posted by andgar923
    Kinda tough being DPOY when you're the 2nd best defender on your team.

    [COLOR="White"]Yeah I went there.[/COLOR]
    When Jordan won in 88, Pippen wasnt in his prime, so it was legit. lol

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    Default Re: Scottie Pippen: Ultimate Defender

    Probably should've been DPOY in '94, but it's difficult taking it away from Hakeem, too. If Hakeem got MVP, I would've gave Pip the DPOY.

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    Default Re: Scottie Pippen: Ultimate Defender

    Quote Originally Posted by 97 bulls
    When Jordan won in 88, Pippen wasnt in his prime, so it was legit. lol
    MJ is better than Pip, always has always will be.

    Not significantly better, but still better nonetheless.

    And this is while MJ had the bulk of the pressure on him, while being double teamed. Teams prepared for MJ on their offensive side of the end as a defensive ploy all the time. All Pip had to do is give the ball to MJ on offense and then focus on mainly helping out.

    He wasn't the lock down defender ya'll make him out to be. He got killed too many times, specially by stronger players in the post, or quicker players in the perimeter. MJ was better on the perimeter and post, because Mj was quicker on the perimeter and MJ was more strong willed in the post.

    To be fair, MJ got away with more calls, but even without those calls MJ was still better all around defender. Slight edge may go to Pip on the 'help' side due to his length (he could cover 2 spots at the same time, almost unheard of). But MJ was smarter, better athlete, timing, reflexes.

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