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    Default Re: Lebron James's ability to play with Stars

    I haven't read one post in this thread beyond the OP, so I don't know if I'm repeating anything. But concerning the ability to play with other stars, Russell, Magic, and Bird scream, "Hellooooo!"

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    Default Re: Lebron James's ability to play with Stars

    Let me dumb it down for u a little more since u cant grasp my point.


    Shaq
    Hakeem
    Bird
    Lebron
    Paul

    would defeat a team of

    Shaq
    Hakeem
    Bird
    Jordan
    Paul

    Not because LBJ is a better individual player. But because LBJ would make every player on that stacked team better than MJ could make them.

    Will MJ still be more clutch than Lebron? yes. But Bird would easily match MJ's clutchness with LBJ's support.

    Shaq is a better Shaq with LBJ than Jordan.

    Same for Hakeem.

    Chris paul would still be involved in the offense with LBJ, where he would tuirn into a spot up shooter with that much talent on a team lead by MJ.

    R u getting the point yet?
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    Default Re: If LBJ end up G.OAT its for one reason...

    all he needs is to win more rings than MJ and he automatically rises above his Airness

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    Default Re: Lebron James's ability to play with Stars

    Quote Originally Posted by Joey3000
    Let me dumb it down for u a little more since u cant grasp my point.


    Shaq
    Hakeem
    Bird
    Lebron
    Paul

    would defeat a team of

    Shaq
    Hakeem
    Bird
    Jordan
    Paul

    Not because LBJ is a better individual player. But because LBJ would make every player on that stacked team better than MJ could make them.

    Will MJ still be more clutch than Lebron? yes. But Bird would easily match MJ's clutchness with LBJ's support.

    Shaq is a better Shaq with LBJ than Jordan.

    Same for Hakeem.

    Chris paul would still be involved in the offense with LBJ, where he would tuirn into a spot up shooter with that much talent on a team lead by MJ.

    R u getting the point it?
    Your logic is flawed since every player would cancel each other's advantage and all you're left with is a MJ vs LBJ match up.

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    Default Re: If LBJ end up G.OAT its for one reason...

    Quote Originally Posted by Joey3000
    OK lets look at it this way. U have this team:

    Shaq
    Garnett
    Kobe
    Chris Paul.

    Who do u add, MJ or Lebron?
    Jordan would be a much better fit for that team because of his off ball play. Lebron would severely limit Kobe and Paul's game who's strengths come from playing on ball. There's only one basketball, and I'm confident that team would be a lot better with Jordan in place of Lebron.

    here is another one:

    Hakeem
    Duncan
    Bird
    Pierce

    Who do u add? Kobe or Lebron?
    That team doesn't have a PG so I'd go with Lebron in that situation. Pierce and Bird are capable of playing off the ball.
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    Default Re: Lebron James's ability to play with Stars

    Quote Originally Posted by ripthekik
    the kobe that dropped 81 points on your raptors? ok.
    you need to get off both players' jocks

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    Default Re: Lebron James's ability to play with Stars

    Quote Originally Posted by Haymaker
    Your logic is flawed since every player would cancel each other's advantage and all you're left with is a MJ vs LBJ match up.

    No because I wanted it to come to a showdown between mj and LBJ. The point is yes, MJ is the better individuel player, but LBJ is the better team player. And that ascpect of greatness is often overlooked.

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    Default Re: Lebron James's ability to play with Stars

    Quote Originally Posted by jlip
    I haven't read one post in this thread beyond the OP, so I don't know if I'm repeating anything. But concerning the ability to play with other stars, Russell, Magic, and Bird scream, "Hellooooo!"
    This thread is almost ironic in my opinion. I'd almost say Lebron's inability to mesh with other all time greats - because of his need to dominate the ball - is one of his biggest weaknesses. He's gotten a lot better these past couple of years though, so I'm more hesitant to say that now than I would have been in 2011.

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    Default Re: Lebron James's ability to play with Stars

    OP is retarded.

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    Default Re: Lebron James's ability to play with Stars

    Quote Originally Posted by Joey3000
    No because I wanted it to come to a showdown between mj and LBJ. The point is yes, MJ is the better individuel player, but LBJ is the better team player. And that ascpect of greatness is often overlooked.
    It's flawed, because I can also ask you

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    Which guy would benefit this team as the 5th man more, Shaq or Chris Paul?
    Obviously Chris Paul would. But Shaq's still the better player.

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    Default Re: Lebron James's ability to play with Stars

    Its says alot when mods have to change the title from:

    "If Lebron ends up G.O.A.T its due to one reason"

    to

    "Lebron James's ability to play with Stars"

    They changed it to calm down all the fanatics who are not open to trying to understand a statement. You guys are so blinded by the *** jordan left in your eyes to recognize possible the best team player since Magic.

    Let me help you guys a littlebit.

    Would a faster, stronger, more athletic Magic Johnson have a chance of being the G.O.A.T? Well thats what LBJ is.

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    Default Re: Lebron James's ability to play with Stars

    Quote Originally Posted by Joey3000
    Would a faster, stronger, more athletic Magic Johnson have a chance of being the G.O.A.T?
    Of course, but that's not what Lebron is. Lebron does have a chance at being the best ever one day though.

    Well thats what LBJ is.
    I disagree.

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    Default Re: Lebron James's ability to play with Stars

    Quote Originally Posted by Joey3000
    Its says alot when mods have to change the title from:

    "If Lebron ends up G.O.A.T its due to one reason"

    to

    "Lebron James's ability to play with Stars"

    They changed it to calm down all the fanatics who are not open to trying to understand a statement. You guys are so blinded by the *** jordan left in your eyes to recognize possible the best team player since Magic.

    Let me help you guys a littlebit.

    Would a faster, stronger, more athletic Magic Johnson have a chance of being the G.O.A.T? Well thats what LBJ is.
    It was changed because the subject line had nothing to do with what he was talking about..and even stated he doesn't think he is GOAT or will be.

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    Default Re: Lebron James's ability to play with Stars

    Quote Originally Posted by ripthekik
    It's flawed, because I can also ask you

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    Which guy would benefit this team as the 5th man more, Shaq or Chris Paul?
    Obviously Chris Paul would. But Shaq's still the better player.



    Now you are getting desperate.

    ok lets play you little game:

    Shaq
    Duncan
    David Robinson,
    Hakeem.

    You do you add to that team? Paul or LBJ?

    The answer... LBJ would bring everything Paul brings along with better defense.

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    Default Re: Lebron James's ability to play with Stars

    Quote Originally Posted by All Net
    It was changed because the subject line had nothing to do with what he was talking about..and even stated he doesn't think he is GOAT or will be.

    No, I created the topic and I did say he is not G.O.A.T but I do think that he is the first person on the right path to surpassing MJ as G.O.A.T. Hence the title "If LBJ ends up GOAT.

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