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Old 02-19-2019, 11:48 AM   #31
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If you want to be talked about among the best, then you use the stats when you were considered the best player on your team. The franchise player. That didn't happen for Kobe until 2005.
And the jordan playing style once again won multiple rings with just one other all-star

So proven across eras..

Jordan style is simply the best way to yield the best chemistry and teamwork, so the team doesn't need ridiculous talent like lebron needs with his lower ball movement style.

That's why MJ is 6/6 and #1 on the list
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Old 02-19-2019, 11:51 AM   #32
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And the jordan playing style once again won multiple rings with just one other all-star

So proven across eras..

Jordan style is simply the best way to yield the best chemistry and teamwork, so the team doesn't need ridiculous talent like lebron needs with his lower ball movement style.

That's why MJ is 6/6 and #1 on the list


#Facts
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Old 02-19-2019, 11:56 AM   #33
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well thats it for me. i'm out of here. my life has meant nothing




if anyone wants to carry on my legacy my password is "bootsboots"
Talk about unstable. You're better off without ish.
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Old 02-19-2019, 12:03 PM   #34
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And the jordan playing style once again won multiple rings with just one other all-star

So proven across eras..

Jordan style is simply the best way to yield the best chemistry and teamwork, so the team doesn't need ridiculous talent like lebron needs with his lower ball movement style.

That's why MJ is 6/6 and #1 on the list
Teams better than anything MJ faced in the finals
13 Spurs
14 Spurs
15 Warriors
16 Warriors
17 Warriors
18 Warriors
19 Warriors

MJ ain't shit. Yes I said it. Kill yourself too 3ball
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Old 02-19-2019, 12:13 PM   #35
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LBJ should be ranked 1 but whatever
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Old 02-19-2019, 12:14 PM   #36
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Teams better than anything MJ faced in the finals
13 Spurs
14 Spurs
15 Warriors
16 Warriors
17 Warriors
18 Warriors
19 Warriors

MJ ain't shit. Yes I said it.l
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Old 02-19-2019, 12:31 PM   #37
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This lame shit again

Kobe routinely ran a train on the Spurs, why would anyone have duncan over gawdbe

Kobe is 21-31 lifetime when playing against Duncan. 39-43 if you count the playoffs, with 14 of those 18 playoff wins coming when Shaq was leading the Lakers and doing all the heavy lifting.
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Old 02-19-2019, 12:33 PM   #38
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Kobe is 21-31 lifetime when playing against Duncan. 39-43 if you count the playoffs, with 14 of those 18 playoff wins coming when Shaq was leading the Lakers and doing all the heavy lifting.

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Old 02-19-2019, 12:33 PM   #39
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Old 02-19-2019, 12:38 PM   #40
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Teams better than anything MJ faced in the finals

13 Spurs
14 Spurs
15 Warriors
16 Warriors
17 Warriors
18 Warriors
19 Warriors

MJ won with less (only 1 all-star teammate) and would've been unfathomable with 2 like lebron had to face the Spurs and Warriors

Heck, Lebron teamed up with Wade.. .. that alone gave him the most talent in the league and he was favored against the Spurs.. against the Warriors, he had another big 3 that was favored in 15' before kyrie went down


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Kill yourself too 3ball

List the players MJ defeated in the playoffs: Magic, Shaq, Isiah, Ewing, Malone, Barkley, Drexler, Payton, Dominique

Those guys rank higher overall than Duncan, Curry, Durant, and then crap like DeRozan, Horford.... And obviously, shaq/penny destroy hibbert/george... And garnett/pierce/allen were all 35 years old when lebron beat them, while Isiah/dumars/rodman were 27-29 when MJ beat them

And on and on.. MJ faced and defeated better players than lebron..


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MJ ain't shit. Yes I said it.

All of MJ's wins except 92' was like beating the equivalent of a Spurs-level team

The Spurs sometimes had higher net efficiency because they faced weaker comp in the late 00's than the stacked 90's west - it was 3-4 spurs teams playing each other back then, hence them taking turns losing to MJ in the Finals as 60-win Finals losers.. So MJ would smash the Spurs.. 3-0 in Lebron's shoes

And look at the 2 times MJ faced Duncan in 98' - dominated him, won without pippen.. sure Duncan was only the most prepared rookie ever
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Old 02-19-2019, 12:58 PM   #41
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Magic is very high on this list and D-Rob is better than Stockton
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Old 02-19-2019, 02:22 PM   #42
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I found the ESPN top 20 list




*notables include: MJ #1, Kareem #2, LeBron #3, Kobe #12, Dirk #17

I’m fine with this list. Is there anything that sticks out to you?
So MJ beat 5 guys on the list.. set the playoff record against another..

and Isiah who must've barely missed the list

He also played against nearly everyone on the list
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Old 02-19-2019, 02:47 PM   #43
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Oscar is really overrated.
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Old 02-19-2019, 03:41 PM   #44
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Is it more newsworthy though than this Tim Donaghy article that tops all records @ 50+ PgDn length?

Matter of time before another betting scandal hits the league now that they're legalizing sports betting, mark my words.



I watched the video and I don't really understand what it means. (I do speak English.)

So... what does it mean? What exactly did Tim Donaghy do? Was he making the right calls or not? How did this work?
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Old 02-19-2019, 03:47 PM   #45
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Shaq should be higher.

He was the single most dominant player to ever play the game. Period

Agreed. He should be higher no doubt.
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Still #12?

He tried his best

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ESPN made this list in 2016, after the finals if I'm not mistaken.


LeHose James took over #1 since the last update, IMO..

He should be at least #2, but yes I agree should be #1
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