Does Lebron have ANY argument over Kareem?

[bigkingsfan]

Yeah, he only won MVP, scoring title and FMVP in in his 2nd season

Lebron won 0 times in the 2000s and only went to the Finals once

Slippery slope, took Kobe 12 yr for MVP, and 13 for FMVP...

[LAmbruh]

Slippery slope, took Kobe 12 yr for MVP, and 13 for FMVP...

6 Finals trips before he even got a single vote

[SouBeachTalents]

Slippery slope, took Kobe 12 yr for MVP, and 13 for FMVP...

I legit feel bad for Kobe fans, always outmatched on an individual basis, their only resort is rangz, the majority of which were won not even as his teams best or most impactful player

[Turbo Slayer]

Slippery slope, took Kobe 12 yr for MVP, and 13 for FMVP...

[Rico2016]

Imagine playing in a weak era WITH a top 3 all time player in Magic and trying to be ranked ahead of LeBron with also only having 2 FMVPs

That's not it chico

[Rico2016]

6 Finals trips before he even got a single vote

1for6be

[Turbo Slayer]

1for6be

[DoctorP]

Chongster gotta worry about making the playoffs this season.

[3ball]

Imagine playing in a weak era [COLOR="Blue"]WITH a top 3 all time player in Magic [/COLOR]and trying to be ranked ahead of LeBron with also only having 2 FMVPs

That's not it chico

I somewhat agree with the bolded - I don't think Magic and Kareem can BOTH be ranked top 5 all-time..

It's just too much help, which diminishes the rings

One of them has to take a dip into the 5-10 range, and I think it's Kareem - he needed soooooo much help to win (9 all-star teammates), and goat bigs generally need more help than goat perimeter players

[SouBeachTalents]

I somewhat agree with the bolded - I don't think Magic and Kareem can BOTH be ranked top 5 all-time..

It's just too much help, which diminishes the rings

One of them has to take a dip into the 5-10 range, and I think it's Kareem - he needed soooooo much help to win (9 all-star teammates), and goat bigs generally need more help than goat perimeter players

Yes you do

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...98&postcount=1

[3ball]

Yes you do

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...98&postcount=1

^^^ that's 10 months old

I've since updated them several times by putting all the goat perimeter players over the goat bigs, because it's clear that the goat bigs need more help and can't control the game like the goat wings

My latest rankings have MJ/Bird/Kobe/Magic over Kareem/Shaq/Duncan/Russell

[ILLsmak]

Kobe

It's like ****ing where's waldo. I SEE U.

-Smak

[Round Mound]

Kareem in the 70's was as dominant as Wilt or Shaq.And he had a more refined game than both

[iamgine]

Yeah, he only won MVP, scoring title and FMVP in in his 2nd season

Lebron won 0 times in the 2000s and only went to the Finals once

2000s isn't weak era though. 1970s is very very weak era.

[LAL]

Kareem in the 70's was as dominant as Wilt or Shaq.And he had a more refined game than both

Sure but only won once in 7 years with oscar in the 70's. Then came showtime lakers, even james worthy was finals mvp with magic and kareem as his teammates.

Lebron is just too overrated. Goat stats, no real skills and losing record, even with superteams in the east. He hardly explodes in points and can't be extra aggresive when everyone wants to see that.