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The Puppeteer
Re: Shocking Andrew Wiggins Stat
Originally Posted by 3ball
Its funny because you guys would be saying Wiggins is literally the best SF ever if he was MJ's sidekick and won a bunch of rings like Pippen did.
Wiggins is way more talented than Pippen ever was, but simply needs direction and someone to light a fire under him.
You are so insecure that you have to bring Jordan into a thread about Andrew Wiggins.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Shocking Andrew Wiggins Stat
Originally Posted by FireDavidKahn
You are so insecure that you have to bring Jordan into a thread about Andrew Wiggins.
and yet... I'm not wrong
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Shocking Andrew Wiggins Stat
Originally Posted by Bronbron23
This may be the dumbest shit you ever posted man
Isn't Wiggins more talented than Pippen?
So wouldn't he have flourished and blossomed on both ends even more than Pippen did?
Wasn't MJ very competitive vs the Pistons in 1989 and 1990 with production from Pippen that was nowhere near rookie Wiggins, let along 3rd year Wiggins?
Doesn't that mean that MJ easily beats the 1989 and 1990 Pistons with Wiggins 20 ppg over Pippen's 9 ppg?
Yes, yes, yes, and yes... thank you and goodnight
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Gif-ted
Re: Shocking Andrew Wiggins Stat
Originally Posted by 3ball
Isn't Wiggins more talented than Pippen?
So wouldn't he have flourished and blossomed on both ends even more than Pippen did?
Wasn't MJ very competitive vs the Pistons in 1989 and 1990 with production from Pippen that was nowhere near rookie Wiggins, let along 3rd year Wiggins?
Doesn't that mean that MJ easily beats the 1989 and 1990 Pistons with Wiggins 20 ppg over Pippen's 9 ppg?
Yes, yes, yes, and yes... thank you and goodnight
Why did Ordan get swept with a 21 ppg scorer tiny?
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Re: Shocking Andrew Wiggins Stat
Originally Posted by 3ball
Isn't Wiggins more talented than Pippen?
So wouldn't he have flourished and blossomed on both ends even more than Pippen did?
Wasn't MJ very competitive vs the Pistons in 1989 and 1990 with production from Pippen that was nowhere near rookie Wiggins, let along 3rd year Wiggins?
Doesn't that mean that MJ easily beats the 1989 and 1990 Pistons with Wiggins 20 ppg over Pippen's 9 ppg?
Yes, yes, yes, and yes... thank you and goodnight
Wiggins is inefficient in this era where it's much easier to score. What in hell makes you think Wiggins could score anywhere close to 20 in previous era's? Especially against the bad boys soft ass wiggy would be lucky to score 10.
And to answer your question, no Wiggins is not more talented than pip. They're both stiff and have a pretty basic offensive games. I don't know what your seeing from Wiggins that makes you think he's more talented than pip.
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NBA Legend
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Cavs for life
Re: Shocking Andrew Wiggins Stat
Andrew Wiggins has the emptiest scoring stats of any player in the league. He's the kind of guy who looks good in a highlight video, but awful when you actually watch him play a whole game.
He can't shoot, or rebound, or pass, or defend.
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The Puppeteer
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Bernie 2020
Re: Shocking Andrew Wiggins Stat
Kawhi - 8 years, 467 games
Wiggins - 5 years, 400 games
Not that shocking when you remember Kawhi's injury problems..that and how differently their circumstances were coming into the league. Wiggins was expected to be the next big thing and given the keys in Minny, 36 minutes per game his rookie year. Leonard joined a contending team where he only got 24 minutes a night and averaged 7.9ppg
Far from shocking.
No one ever questioned Wiggins ability to score. He can definitely score, would be better if he was a tad more efficient, but he is a scorer. The problem with Wiggins and the hate he gets is the fact that he does nothing else....literally, I've been saying this since his 2nd season (when everyone was telling me to give him time) that he isn't a good defender at all, isn't a good passer, doesn't rebound, doesn't make plays for others...
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Re: Shocking Andrew Wiggins Stat
Originally Posted by FireDavidKahn
You put KAT in a competent organization and none of this empty stat stigma exists.
People seem to be oblivious as to just how terrible the Wolves have built around him. Everyone recognizes that Wiggins is beyond horrible and yet they can't admit that he's been the "side kick" that KAT has been trying to drag along. FFS, last year is the first year in KAT's career that he was allowed to take more shots than Wiggins
Let's just take a gander year by year what he's had to deal with.
Rookie year:
Wiggins
Lavine
Rubio
Dieng
Shabazz Muhammad
Tayshaun Prince
Sophomore year:
Wiggins
Lavine
Rubio
Dieng
Shabazz Muhammad
Brandon Rush
3rd year:
Finally get's an all-star teammate and was the 2nd best player on a team that was well on its way to the 3rd seed before Butler got hurt.
4th year:
Butler plays 10 games.
Rose was pretty good (still a travesty on defense but really good on offense) but only played 51 games.
Covington played only 22 games.
Teague isn't that good and only played 42 games.
Saric and Taj were ok but not even close to game changers last year.
Doesn't matter how good your big men are if you don't even have adequate wing play your team is doomed. What's funny is that Tyus Jones was our best wing last year. He's terrific at running an offense but, again, if he is your best wing...
sorry man but they're both soft and both overrated. Kat isn't a franchise player. He's be a really good third option on a winning team.
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Bernie 2020
Re: Shocking Andrew Wiggins Stat
Originally Posted by Bronbron23
sorry man but they're both soft and both overrated. Kat isn't a franchise player. He's be a really good third option on a winning team.
Agreed, both are too soft.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Shocking Andrew Wiggins Stat
Originally Posted by BigTicket
Andrew Wiggins has the emptiest scoring stats of any player in the league. He's the kind of guy who looks good in a highlight video, but awful when you actually watch him play a whole game.
[COLOR="DarkRed"]He can't shoot, or rebound, or pass, or defend[/COLOR].
^^^ Just like 8-point rookie Pippen before MJ lit that fire.. rookie pip was trash, whereas rookie Wiggins was already a stud.
But everybody was HYPE to play with Jordan, which is why BJ, Horace, and Scottie all went from garbage rookies to all-star caliber by the time MJ went to play baseball - they improved by leaps and bounds next to his off-ball game (aka they didn't have to be only spot-up shooters like Lebron's ball-dominant skillset forces on teammates)
But again, Pippen/BJ/Horace started off as trash rookies, whereas Wiggins was already a stud, so god knows how great he would've gotten alongside MJ
And again, MJ easily beats the 89' Pistons with Wiggins' 21 ppg over baby Pip's horrible production, especially in the ECF (9.7 on 41%)
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LOL Maker, Intraweb
Re: Shocking Andrew Wiggins Stat
I am going to zag here.
Efficiency stats are always shitty on wing players who toil on shit teams.
Wiggins has improved his 3pt % from around 30% to around 35% since his rookie year, putting him in line with the league average.
His rebounding and defense improved once Thibs left.
Here is the deal, he has the worst body language in the world and watching him is frustrating. But now it is at a point where he is comically under rated. He has under performed, but at the same token he isn't garbage.
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