With the exception of Donovan Mitchell‘s inefficiency and Ricky Rubio‘s downright awful shooting, Utah’s starters and key bench players Jae Crowder and Alec Burks have all been playing extremely well lately. If they maintain the trends they showed at home against Dallas and Boston, and on the road in Memphis, then I’m expecting a big win for the visiting Jazz.
Morey’s description of Matt being smart, tough and focused only on winning hits the nail on the head. It’s the perfect way to explain the way he played and what made him so valuable to the Jazz. Honestly, Harpring’s personality and style would have very likely made him a perfect fit on this current Jazz team as those three traits seem to perfectly describe them as well.
Another guy that doesn't space the floor. Just what they need
Instead we’ll have to settle for his expert analysis and unique insight as he continues to be a fun listen as an announcer for the Jazz.
He's horrible, Willie Reed was better than him and Boone. Thurl is as well. How about Mike Smith?
I remember clearly when I first took note of Jae Crowder. He was playing for the Dallas Mavericks at the time, and I was feeling frustrated but impressed by how this huge guy with long hair was canning threes and hustling hard, making life difficult for my Utah Jazz, even as a role player.
I saw him in college in the tournament against BYU first
Crowder played hard for the Jazz through the remainder of the season, providing a gritty edge and much-appreciated hustle for a team that had lost Thabo Sefolosha, their primary stretch four, to injury. Jae quickly endeared himself to Jazz Nation as a fan favorite.
He was platooning with Jonas but why would you know that?
Not only that; Crowder also fit seamlessly into Utah’s brotherhood of players, often acting as the first player to throw himself into physical altercations in defense of his new teammates, perhaps most notably Ricky Rubio, who seems to be disproportionately targeted by opposing players at times.
I’m blown away by the lack of effort shown by the Jazz’s bench in particular. In theory, all of those players have something to prove on the court. Dante Exum is trying to show that he deserves his spot in the rotation as Raul Neto returns from injury. Grayson Allen was given his first chance to play in a week and showed that he’s not anywhere near ready. Thabo Sefolosha should have been trying to show that he’s back from injury recovery, but he didn’t look speedy enough to stay on the court. Royce O’Neale should have been showing conclusively that he deserves his time. And Ekpe Udoh tells people that he’s one of the best defenders in the world, and you can’t claim that after being outscored by the Dallas Mavericks third unit by 24 points in 11 minutes.
The fact that they gave Exum that kind of money and he's not good enough to be a rotation player is ridiculous. He's getting better and is young. But he's not an NBA rotation player yet. He's a defensive specialist that belongs in the G-league or abroad until he's ready to be a rotation player. He'll play ahead of Neto though
O'Neale has proven himself already. He belongs. Allen needs to go to the G-league once Neto is back if not sooner
Some of it was a reluctance to shoot. Check this out from Rubio — five seconds after a turnover, he looks at the rim three times, and in order turns down an open three, an open 18-foot shot, and an open 10-foot shot before chucking it out of bounds. Yiiiiikes.
That kills them. Him and Exum can't hit shots and they don't want to shoot.
Rubio is having a horrible offensive start to the season: he’s shooting only 33 percent for the season right now overall. I know that shooting isn’t his forte, but quite frankly, if he’s that much of an offensive liability individually, he can’t be on the floor. The hard part with Rubio is that history tells you that he should put it together sometime later in the season, but you don’t know exactly when. He’s doing the right things in practice, and yet, there’s what we see in games, and it’s maddening.
He's a horrible offenisve player. Even his passing which is supposed to be so great is ugly at times. He does hit free throws! 14 million to show up sometime later in the season?
You would think Rubio’s struggles would make room for the up-and-coming Dante Exum, but Exum’s not coming up: he’s shooting just as badly from three, and isn’t a mid-range threat at all, while Rubio theoretically is. Exum provides a different defensive threat, while Rubio’s play there is more matchup-dependent, but Exum’s inability to create good looks for his teammates means Rubio’s largely staying on the floor.
Exum has been better than Rubio as sad as his game is! He at least isn't a matador on d. Neither should play. Neto, Mitchell and Ingles should have the ball.
Alec Burks has had one of his best seasons yet, but tonight I thought we saw way too much of the old Alec Burks on Wednesday. That means missed midrange shots, inconsistent defensive pressure, and a lack of secondary contribution through rebounds and assists. You just hope it’s not a regression back to what we’ve seen, but Grayson Allen looks positively unlikely to take his job with performances like tonight’s.
He's from Duke. He'll have the job eventually. He needs to go to the G-league until he's ready though
Without the guards playing well, the Jazz don’t have a chance to succeed. Not only do they miss their own shots, but they don’t up things for bigger players to get their shots as well. A Jazz bounceback later in the season, if it happens, will require either better efforts or reinforcements joining the roster.
They need a minimum of 3 new players. Exum, Rubio and Favors replacements. They are probably stuck with Exum. Might be able to get rid of the other two. Buyouts if they can't. None of it will happen though. The fact that they signed Favors and Exum to those deals in the first place was insane. Almost as insane as giving up the first for Ricky! They needed some new blood. Houston destroyed them and no Ricky's 35% shooting wouldnt have made a difference other than maybe getting swept
No better play personified the Utah Jazz’s visit to Dallas on Wednesday night than a costly errant pass in the middle of the third quarter. Ricky Rubio found himself open from three, but head faked instead of shooting, then drove into the lane, found himself still open for a floater in the lane, didn’t shoot, and passed it outside…. to no one.
Staying with Rubio for a moment, he was passive with his shots and in a funk with his passes. Sure, the Mavs were going under screens and daring him to shoot, but, sometimes you just have to shoot for the offense to function. Instead, Rubio passed the ball around like a hot potato. There was no flow and limited direction, all because the point guard position was plugged. Rubio’s line was a stinker: he managed 11 points but on 3-for-9 shooting, along with three assists and four turnovers.
That's what he does! You're surprised by this?
The Jazz hope to leave their empty possessions and cold shooting in Dallas as they head out to the East coast for a back-to-back weekend. First up is Jimmy Butler in his new digs in Philadelphia on Friday night. On a quick turnaround, the Jazz will then roll into Boston for a rematch with Gordon Hayward and the Celtics on Saturday night.
Shooting will be a problem until they get rid of the crap 3
This was supposed to be the year the Jazz solidified themselves as the second best team in the West and the only legitimate threat to the Warriors. This was supposed to be the year the Jazz put a complete season together, winning all the games that they are supposed to. Yes, it’s early. It’s mid-November. But last night struck some serious worry into me for the first time this season. Thiis doesn’t mean that the Jazz can’t finish second in the west and still advance on to the conference finals. All of that is still definitely in play. But the odds of that happening are sure a lot less than they probably were before the season started.
Anyone that thought the same roster would do any of that is delusional. Rubio, Exum and Favors are a problem. Until they realize that they will only be so good
There is zero percent chance that I’m counting this team out. We know their potential and what they can do, because we literally saw it come to pass last season with the same personnel. Quin Snyder is too smart to not succeed. Rudy Gobert is too tough. Donovan Mitchell is too talented. They’ll figure it out. To quote the ever-wise DPOY Rudy Gobert himself “We will be fine”.
Now, Mitchell, Gobert, and to a lesser extent Joe Ingles form the core of the Jazz. Last season, lineups with Favors and any one of those three were excellent, but that hasn’t been the case thus far this year. The Favors/Ingles combination has a minus-6.8 differential (according to Cleaning the Glass) and Favors/Mitchell is minus-3.3. The Favors/Gobert pairing is plus-2.7, well below last year’s differential of plus-8.4.
Crowder is part of that core for sure
It’s hard to pinpoint exactly where Favors has fallen off this year. Utah itself has not been as good as expected, with Mitchell progressing more incrementally than hoped for and the defense taking a step back. The Jazz had aspirations of being the top challenger to Golden State in the West after a blistering finish to the regular season and a promising playoff showing despite missing Ricky Rubio for the conference semifinals. Instead, Utah is 7-6 and on the outside looking in of the postseason at this extremely early juncture.
Don't think Favors has fallen off. Teams have finally gigured out that the Jazz can't hit shots. Not sure why it took so long though. Obvious all along
The NBA has evolved in recent years so that players like Favors — big men without much range — have lost much of their value. Even so, Utah provided a stark rebuttal to that trend last year, proving that success was still possible with a dominant, if oversized, front court. Now, however, the rest of the league has seemingly caught on to the Jazz, and Favors’ ability to impact a game is waning. If he continues to perform at this level, it’s hard to see how Favors, whose $16 million deal is not guaranteed next season, has much of a future in Utah.
Odds are him and Ricky will be back next year. That's the way the Jazz do things. It's why they have no rings. Its not because of MJ
Re: 2018-19 regular season. Time to live up to the hype!
It’s no secret the Bucks are looking to trade veteran reserve guard Matthew Dellavedova who is a former Cavaliers fan favorite. Dellavedova began his NBA career with the Cavs in 2013 and spent three seasons with them before being dealt to Milwaukee in the summer of 2016 for Albert Miralles and $200,000. If the Cavs were to take on Dellavedova, they would likely request a draft pick or young player as well. – via Woelfel's Press Box
I'd trade his contract for Exum or Rubio any day. He's a player.
Re: 2018-19 regular season. Time to live up to the hype!
League sources said Thon Maker, who makes $2.8 million this season, D.J. Wilson, who makes $2.5 million, or Christian Wood, who makes $1.5 million. would be potential candidates in a Korver-Dellavedova deal. Like Dellavedova, Maker, Wilson and Wood are buried on the Bucks’ depth chart. The Bucks aren’t the only team interested in Korver’s services. Sources said Philadelphia, Oklahoma City and Los Angeles Lakers are also among the Korver suitors. – via Woelfel's Press Box
Liked Maker as a rookie. Haven't seen much of him. Wood was the best player I saw in the G-league. Not sure why it took so long for someone to get him in the first place
Utah Jazz Editorial: Let’s not kid ourselves, this continuity plan isn’t working
Crazy for anyone to think it would. Rubio sucks. That was already clear. Exum has sucked. He continues to show slow improvement but he's not a rotation player and you gave him a huge 3 year deal! He should be in the G-league or abroad until he's ready for the NBA. Favors is a back-up center on this team getting paid 18 million to start at PF. Snyder already showed he didn't care for Burks, Thabo and Neto. Why bring them back? Bradley is stuck as the 4th string center in the G-league despite obvious growth in his game. That's what over 60 million in salary this year? You really don't think you could have upgraded with that kind of money?
Their dismal guard play is largely to blame for that. Ricky Rubio is the principal culprit, as he’s putting up a career-low 33.3 percent from the field and an ugly 26.7 percent from deep. That 3-point mark is nearly the worst of his career, second only to the season in which he appeared in just 22 games and shot an appalling 25.5 percent. He’s also at a career-worst mark for turnovers at 3.3 per game.
Not much below his career numbers though. Lindsey thought this guy made sense?
Next there’s the second round of guards, Dante Exum and Alec Burks. Unfortunately, Exum hasn’t been much more effective (if at all) than Rubio. He’s shooting just 40 percent from the field and 26.7 percent from deep and has no mid-range game. At least his turnovers per game are less than Rubio’s. However, with Raul Neto set to make a return sooner than later, don’t be surprised if Exum’s poor shooting leads to him being bumped from the rotation.
I'd be shocked if Neto played. He certainly should. He's the best pg on the team by far
Believe it or not, Burks has actually been the most efficient of this bunch so far. But he could very well be going the wrong way in a hurry. In his last three games, AB is just 6-of-22 (27.3 percent) from the field and 2-of-8 (25 percent) from 3-point land. Burks has shown brilliant moments this season, but his issue is that he’s never been able to maintain consistency in terms of shooting, defense or decision making. It appears a revert to the unfortunate norm is in order for him.
His only issue has been Snyder
Instead, Ricky looks like he’s gotten ten times worse. Donovan has failed to show improvement. The Derrick Favors – Rudy Gobert fit is back to feeling as clunky as ever. Dante is struggling to prove he’s worth his contract. In short, it’s been an ugly 14 games, a type of ugly that was supposed to never have been, due to Utah opting to stay the course with an already intact and ‘proven’ core.
and what there is surprising to anyone that pays attention? Donovan will be fine if they put shooters around him. Not worried about him at all.
Which brings to me to my final point about continuity. We all knew this summer that the Utah Jazz needed to add shooting and play-making if they were to improve and be able to compete with the likes of Golden State and at the time (as of now, still TBD) the Houston Rockets. So what did they do this summer? They added absolutely no shooting or play-making.
They actually did add shooting in Allen and Niang(while losing Jonas). Allen isn't ready though. Burks is playing so you could say they've added playmaking for the time being.
But here we are 14 games in, and it’s clear the Jazz still need shooting and still need play-making. And it’s also questionable whether or not any of the guys Utah opted to retain – Favors, Exum or Neto – will end up worth the price come season’s end. Meanwhile, while a ‘good’ Jazz team decided to stay ‘good’ by relying on continuity this offseason, several other teams in the West went out on a limb and tried to become ‘great’ by making improvements.
Neto is a bargain rather he ever steps on the floor.
Another great article from the ultimate flip flopper!
We’re not always conscious of how much potential informs who we talk about in the NBA. We’d like to think that personality and performance in big stages are just as important. But Ingles has plenty of personality. He showed it last season when he was the single biggest factor in eliminating the Thunder from the playoffs last season. He’s already risen to big moments this season including a 27-point performance almost taking down a then-healthy and full-strength Warriors team.
You mean other than Gobert? Game 5 againist OKC proved again it's all about Rudy