2008-2010 Lakers vs. 2011-2013 Heat

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Heat in 5.

[WayOfWade]

Heat in 5.

Come on man, you've got to be realistic. Heat in 4.

[rzp]

heat in 5

[Magic 32]

I am not the one with an agenda here. I happily admit that LeBron greatly benefited from injuries* only if you concede that this is the same with Kobe. If you give Kobe a pass, then give both a pass. I am contesting the hypocrisy here, not the players.

This year was pretty unique for the Heat, and I don't see the hypocrisy in pointing out their astonishing lack of quality opponents. Kobe faced plenty of healthy 50+ teams during his championship runs.

[longtime lurker]

So what is it Heat fans? Kobe won with the most dominant front court of all time and the Heat somehow have the worst front court of all time yet the Heat win in 4 because the magic of Lebron.........

[tmacattack33]

and Kobe annihilated the Spurs with Bruce Bowen instead of Boris Diaw.

Styles make fights.

And again.......only Lebron fans thinks that regular season games means anything.

Lebron against Celtics in 09-10 RS:



Lebron against Celtics in 09-10 PO:



Lebron never won a meaningful game against Kobe, period. And Kobe was quite unlucky in their RS meetings.

This is such a stupid post Lol

[Magic 32]

This is such a stupid post Lol

Meet Lebron's playoff nightmare.

[aj1987]

It used to be Kobe>>>>Lebron because 5>>>0. After 4 MVP's, 2 Rings, and 2 FMVP's, you guys have changed it to "Kobe played better teams"? Pathetic.

[WayOfWade]

It used to be Kobe>>>>Lebron because 5>>>0. After 4 MVP's, 2 Rings, and 2 FMVP's, you guys have changed it to "Kobe played better teams"? Pathetic.

Even with that better team argument, how is it LeBron's fault he played (in their eyes) inferior teams? I say you do the best with what you're given, be it your team or the one you're playing against, and be judged accordingly to what you accomplish.

[Magic 32]

It used to be Kobe>>>>Lebron because 5>>>0. After 4 MVP's, 2 Rings, and 2 FMVP's, you guys have changed it to "Kobe played better teams"? Pathetic.

No, we just don't agree with...

3 media given MVP's > 3 rings averaging 25 5 5?

and especially not when your greatest achivements are created on the back of the most blatant "stacking the deck" career move in NBA history, and you play in a crippled and historically weak conference.

Kobe playing better teams is only a small part of the argument.

[aj1987]

No, we just don't agree with...

3 media given MVP's > 3 rings averaging 25 5 5?

and especially not when your greatest achivements are created on the back of the most blatant "stacking the deck" career move in NBA history, and you play in a crippled and historically weak conference.

Kobe playing better teams is only a small part of the argument.

Lebron James in the Playoffs last year: 30/10/6/2 on 50% (the whole playoffs)
Lebron James in the Playoffs this year: 26/8/7/2 on 49%
Lebron James combined titles run: 28/9/6/2 on 50%

Also, according to people, Gasol >>> Bosh and Kobe >>>Wade. I'm only assuming, but doesn't that make the Lakers a better team than Miami? That means, Kobe was on teams that were more stacked than the Heat.

Kobe played an amazingly bad team in the Finals in '09 and an injured team in '10.

[tmacattack33]

Meet Lebron's playoff nightmare.

Great, you're argument against Lebron has been relegated to a five year old type of argument where you continually list one player Lebron had trouble with for 12.8 minutes (Diaw's average MPG in the Finals) per game, without acknowledging the players he schooled.

And there were about 4 players he schooled for every 1 player he struggled against in this years playoffs. And in his brilliant 2012 playoff run, it was about a 8 to 1 ratio.

[fjjkk102]

LeBron>Kobe
Wade>Pau
Bosh<Lamar?
Ray<Bynum?

Spo<Phil

The team w/best player in the series always win.

Unless Bron choke again.

[Magic 32]

Great, you're argument against Lebron has been relegated to a five year old type of argument where you continually list one player Lebron had trouble with for 12.8 minutes (Diaw's average MPG in the Finals) per game, without acknowledging the players he schooled.

And there were about 4 players he schooled for every 1 player he struggled against in this years playoffs. And in his brilliant 2012 playoff run, it was about a 8 to 1 ratio.

Well, it's a short way of saying that Lebron once again stuggled in the finals, shooting 39% through the first 23 quarters of the series (part of the time guarded by a player who shouldn't be able to stop a can of tuna).

It's almost like Lebron fans mock Kobe, as a way of distraction themselves from their broken MJ dreams.

[Magic 32]

Also, according to people, Gasol >>> Bosh and Kobe >>>Wade. I'm only assuming, but doesn't that make the Lakers a better team than Miami?

Yes, the first and second option on the Lakers are better than the second and third option on the Heat.

Well done! That proves it.