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NBA Legend
Cavaliers are at their best when Lebron is outscored by his teammates
The Cavaliers are at their absolute best when Love, Irving, or Waiters score more points than him. He should play more like early 80's Magic or Milwaukee Bucks Oscar Robertson and sacrifice and let his teammates carry the scoring load.
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Curry fam
Re: Cavaliers are at their best when Lebron is outscored by his teammates
Sacrifice? What are you talking about. Lebron has always been a willing passer.
That being said none of the people you mentioned has shown they can be trusted to lead a team anywhere. Besides the lottery.
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College star
Re: Cavaliers are at their best when Lebron is outscored by his teammates
Come playoff time, Lebron will have to carry the load until his teammates can prove they can do it.
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NBA Legend
Re: Cavaliers are at their best when Lebron is outscored by his teammates
Originally Posted by navy
Sacrifice? What are you talking about. Lebron has always been a willing passer.
That being said none of the people you mentioned has shown they can be trusted to lead a team anywhere. Besides the lottery.
Leading a team in scoring is not the same as leading a team or being a floor general. I know he's a willing passer. I'm saying, when you exaggerate this to the point that his teammates outscore him, the Cavaliers look unstoppable, they look best when he isn't the one leading them in scoring. Isn't this a team game?
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King of LA
Re: Cavaliers are at their best when Lebron is outscored by his teammates
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Curry fam
Re: Cavaliers are at their best when Lebron is outscored by his teammates
Originally Posted by CavaliersFTW
Leading a team in scoring is not the same as leading a team or being a floor general. I know he's a willing passer. I'm saying, when you exaggerate this to the point that his teammates outscore him, the Cavaliers look unstoppable, they look best when he isn't the one leading them in scoring. Isn't this a team game?
No one on that team is a good enough scorer to consistently outscore Lebron. Of course they will have big games here and there. Lots of offensive firepower. But over the course of 82 games and the playoffs? Not happening.
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81
Re: Cavaliers are at their best when Lebron is outscored by his teammates
They're all better scorers than him anyway. I like this idea.
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National High School Star
Re: Cavaliers are at their best when Lebron is outscored by his teammates
Originally Posted by CavaliersFTW
Leading a team in scoring is not the same as leading a team or being a floor general. I know he's a willing passer. I'm saying, when you exaggerate this to the point that his teammates outscore him, the Cavaliers look unstoppable, they look best when he isn't the one leading them in scoring. Isn't this a team game?
Yes, this is mainly because Lebron's scoring abilities force the opponents to center their defense on him, allowing his teammates to score extremely well
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Re: Cavaliers are at their best when Lebron is outscored by his teammates
Agreed. Cavs are at their best when Dion Waiters scores 25+
He needs to start while Irving dominates off the bench
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Re: Cavaliers are at their best when Lebron is outscored by his teammates
Originally Posted by CavaliersFTW
The Cavaliers are at their absolute best when Love, Irving, or Waiters score more points than him. He should play more like early 80's Magic or Milwaukee Bucks Oscar Robertson and sacrifice and let his teammates carry the scoring load.
he still has to score but that's exactly how he's been playing latley
Follow-up to that stuff we said about LeBron scoring 25 points as the most telling Cavs barometer: Is their magic number actually 70? According to the latest NBA.com player-tracking data, Cleveland is 5-0 when The King makes 70 passes or more ... and 6-7 when he has 69 or fewer.
http://espn.go.com/nba/powerrankings/_/year/2015/week/6
anyone who has watched lebron knows he likes handing out dimes more than scoring
Is LeBron too passive? Numbers say no
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LeBron James has often been criticized for being too passive. He
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Re: Cavaliers are at their best when Lebron is outscored by his teammates
Yeah and the Thunder are at their best when Reggie Jackson outscores Durant.....it just isn't going to happen very often
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Re: Cavaliers are at their best when Lebron is outscored by his teammates
Originally Posted by navy
No one on that team is a good enough scorer to consistently outscore Lebron. Of course they will have big games here and there. Lots of offensive firepower. But over the course of 82 games and the playoffs? Not happening.
exactly
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I brick nerf balls
Re: Cavaliers are at their best when Lebron is outscored by his teammates
Originally Posted by CavaliersFTW
The Cavaliers are at their absolute best when Love, Irving, or Waiters score more points than him. He should play more like early 80's Magic or Milwaukee Bucks Oscar Robertson and sacrifice and let his teammates carry the scoring load.
He's always been more of a Magic Johnson style. Oscar is unrelated to the topic; dude had ancient creaking knees by that time. He wasn't sacrificing he was playing with wide awake, Duncan-esque self-awareness.
More than these things, to me, is... Cavs need a valid backup center and their future revolves directly around that fact.
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NBA Legend
Re: Cavaliers are at their best when Lebron is outscored by his teammates
Originally Posted by La Frescobaldi
He's always been more of a Magic Johnson style. Oscar is unrelated to the topic; dude had ancient creaking knees by that time. He wasn't sacrificing he was playing with wide awake, Duncan-esque self-awareness.
More than these things, to me, is... Cavs need a valid backup center and their future revolves directly around that fact.
True, teams with potent front courts could beat us from the inside out with Love and Thompson's sub 6-8/240 size. Varejao is our only center-sized player worth getting minutes but even his natural position was PF. We've essentially got 3 power forwards (albeit really good ones). And we don't have a single player with the length or timing necessary to protect the rim if our perimeter defense fails.
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Re: Cavaliers are at their best when Lebron is outscored by his teammates
Originally Posted by CavaliersFTW
True, teams with potent front courts could beat us from the inside out with Love and Thompson's sub 6-8/240 size an we don't have a single player with the length or timing necessary to protect the rim if our perimeter defense fails.
Neither did the Heat...it worked out.
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