Belichick > Brady

[kennethgriffen]

Brady is great and all that but he's been more of a system player compared to Peyton Manning. Who was literally the offense wherever he went. Except when he played and won for the Broncos.

lol lets just base tom bradys entire career off of one tough defensive grind it out superbowl game


like he doesn't have these nfl records

Regular season wins by a starting quarterback (207)
Most passing yards, regular season and playoffs (81,693)
Most passing touchdowns, postseason included: 590
Most touchdowns thrown to different receivers (71)
Division titles (16)
Playoff games started (40)
Playoff wins (30)
Playoff touchdown passes (73)
Playoff passing yards (11,179)
Super Bowl appearances (9)
Super Bowl wins (6)
Super Bowl MVPs (4)
Super Bowl touchdown passes (18)
Super Bowl passing yards (2,838)


and he'll probly end up with

- most passing td's
- most pro bowls
- most game winning drives
- most 4th quarter comebacks



like he'd have all of these if all he did was do hand offs for 2 decades and get carried by his defense

[stalkerforlife]

Belichick is 54-63 without Brady and the only time he missed the playoffs in the last 15 seasons is the year Brady was injured.

Nice try, cupcake.

[hold this L]

Except Pop's been over performing even after Duncan retired. Spurs have had no business being as good as they've been the last few years. Stop being a pathetic stan and acknowledge the team and whole org that's needed to win at the highest level.

Overperforming = irrelevant NBA team from a 5x champion under Timmy.

[4pointshot]

When Brady missed one year with an injury, the Pats were 11-5, though they did miss the playoffs on a tie-breaker. When Brady sat out his four game suspension, NE was 3-1, winning one game with the 3d string QB. Small sample size, but I've always thought Beli was more important than Brady. Does anyone seriously think that Aaron Rodgers wouldn't have won at least as many SB with that team? Probably several other QBs, too, thought that isn't as obvious.

[DidUSaySomethin]

When Brady missed one year with an injury, the Pats were 11-5, though they did miss the playoffs on a tie-breaker. When Brady sat out his four game suspension, NE was 3-1, winning one game with the 3d string QB. Small sample size, but I've always thought Beli was more important than Brady. Does anyone seriously think that Aaron Rodgers wouldn't have won at least as many SB with that team? Probably several other QBs, too, thought that isn't as obvious.

rodgers and brees have a higher passer rating and better TD/INT ratio in the playoffs than brady. they easily win more SBs, especially rodgers

[k0kakw0rld]

lol lets just base tom bradys entire career off of one tough defensive grind it out superbowl game


like he doesn't have these nfl records

Regular season wins by a starting quarterback (207)
Most passing yards, regular season and playoffs (81,693)
Most passing touchdowns, postseason included: 590
Most touchdowns thrown to different receivers (71)
Division titles (16)
Playoff games started (40)
Playoff wins (30)
Playoff touchdown passes (73)
Playoff passing yards (11,179)
Super Bowl appearances (9)
Super Bowl wins (6)
Super Bowl MVPs (4)
Super Bowl touchdown passes (18)
Super Bowl passing yards (2,838)


and he'll probly end up with

- most passing td's
- most pro bowls
- most game winning drives
- most 4th quarter comebacks



like he'd have all of these if all he did was do hand offs for 2 decades and get carried by his defense

It's funny because when it comes to Kobe vs LeBron it's a crime to use accolades and stats to compare them.

We know damn well Kobe doesn't stand a chance against LeBron. So which way you want it, coward?

Broncos went from an average to instant contenders when they signed Manning. How are the colts doing with Luck so far?

[kennethgriffen]

It's funny because when it comes to Kobe vs LeBron it's a crime to use accolades and stats to compare them.

We know damn well Kobe doesn't stand a chance against LeBron. So which way you want it, coward?

Broncos went from an average to instant contenders when they signed Manning. How are the colts doing with Luck so far?

brady isn't a stat padding ring chaser



in fact he's quite the opposite. he's loyal and sacrifices stats for the betterment of the team

[ImKobe]

Brady is great and all that but he's been more of a system player compared to Peyton Manning. Who was literally the offense wherever he went. Except when he played and won for the Broncos.

Oh he was literally the offense, except for the two SBs he won

[ImKobe]

It's funny because when it comes to Kobe vs LeBron it's a crime to use accolades and stats to compare them.

We know damn well Kobe doesn't stand a chance against LeBron. So which way you want it, coward?

Broncos went from an average to instant contenders when they signed Manning. How are the colts doing with Luck so far?

Comparing NFL to basketball

Brady's cemented as GOAT due to winning most SBs, Lebron has 3 titles to Kobe's 5, sorry.

So you discredit Kobe's rings due to stats, but in this same thread say that Peyton is better than Brady due to his offense, yet the only times he won he was carried by the defense

[jayfan]

Brady is great and all that but he's been more of a system player compared to Peyton Manning. Who was literally the offense wherever he went. Except when he played and won for the Broncos.

Did you just say it's the system more than Brady?

That juggernaut Patriots offensive system? . The one guys like Charlie Weiss, Josh McDaniels and Bill O'Brien ravaged defenses with when hired by other teams?

[ShawkFactory]

brady isn't a stat padding ring chaser



in fact he's quite the opposite. he's loyal and sacrifices stats for the betterment of the team

Are you implying that Peyton Manning is either of these things?

[warriorfan]

"its about the players. they're the ones that have to go out and do these crazy things we ask them to do. its way harder to actually do it then talk about doing it" - a basic summary of BB's comments at the podium tonight


OP = wrecked

BB is a pretty smart dude. He says the right things. He can

[imdaman99]

"its about the players. they're the ones that have to go out and do these crazy things we ask them to do. its way harder to actually do it then talk about doing it" - a basic summary of BB's comments at the podium tonight

OP = wrecked

Sign of the goat coach. Gives all the credit to the players. What the hell do you want him to say? Not everyone lives on a message board, some people actually deal with people face to face in their everyday lives

[Bronbron23]

They need each other equally. Anyone on here saying Brady doesn't need bill doesn't know football. The man is a genius. Brady would maybe have 1 or 2 chips without him.

On the flip side anyone saying bill doesn't need Brady also doesn't know football. Brady isn't the most talented quarter back but he's one of the smartest players ever. He sees the field and reacts to the defence faster than any quarter back ever.

[FireDavidKahn]

They need each other equally. Anyone on here saying Brady doesn't need bill doesn't know football. The man is a genius. Brady would maybe have 1 or 2 chips without him.

On the flip side anyone saying bill doesn't need Brady also doesn't know football. Brady isn't the most talented quarter back but he's one of the smartest players ever. He sees the field and reacts to the defence faster than any quarter back ever.

This is something that hardly anyone will ever acknowledge. Both Brady and Bill are the GOAT and the two combined was a match made in heaven.

Brady has the most regular season wins in history by a huge margin with 207 with Favre having only 160. If you want to play semantics he is second in regular season win % at 77.5% trailing Otto who was at 78.8% but the total amount of games is 207 wins and 60 losses for Tom and 57 wins and 13 losses for Otto. SO a HUGE difference in sample size.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...k_wins_leaders

Brady also has the most postseason wins (almost double Montana who is second), most Superbowls. Plus, again, depending on how semantic you want to get with players that appeared in only a few post season games he has the highest postseason winning % as well. But if you want to include Bart Starr and his 10 games then fine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...layoff_records

It's absolutely absurd that people call Tom a system QB or can't even acknowledge that he is among the GOATs (despite him being the GOAT).

Tom, who did for 18 years as a starter, had a total record of 237 - 70 = 77.2%. To put that in perspective that would be like an NBA team winning 63 games (including play offs) every single year for 18 years straight.

Not only that but he has the stats to back it up.