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If LeBron win two titles - is he top 5 all-time?
As the topic says, is he?
His dominance since the start of his career is really amazing and even though I'm not a big fan of his personality no one can say that he's not anything but amazing.
I was thinking, I already consider LeBron as a top 15 player of all-time and with 2 rings along with him dominating, should there be any doubt regarding LeBron being a top 5 player?
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Dunking on everybody in the park
Re: If LeBron win two titles - is he top 5 all-time?
Originally Posted by millwad
As the topic says, is he?
His dominance since the start of his career is really amazing and even though I'm not a big fan of his personality no one can say that he's not anything but amazing.
I was thinking, I already consider LeBron as a top 15 player of all-time and with 2 rings along with him dominating, should there be any doubt regarding LeBron being a top 5 player?
Let's start with 1. Then let the arguing begin. ISH will non stop crash for 6 months if the Heat win it in June.
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The Awakening
Re: If LeBron win two titles - is he top 5 all-time?
No, even if Lebron wins 5 titles, he still wouldnt be Top5. Bird and Magic would be similarly accomplished with less bad baggage. Then we have actually dominant Dream and Shaq, then Timmy with Kobe.
With two titles, Lebron wouldnt even be in Top10.
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How I feel in ur head
Re: If LeBron win two titles - is he top 5 all-time?
He passes Kobe with 2 rings, especially if he wins one more MVP and a finals MVP or two.
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Chasing Legends
Re: If LeBron win two titles - is he top 5 all-time?
Originally Posted by maybeshewill13
He passes Kobe with 2 rings, especially if he wins one more MVP and a finals MVP or two.
lol
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Dunking on everybody in the park
Re: If LeBron win two titles - is he top 5 all-time?
If he gets two more MVPs and 3-4 championships... id give him a shot at best individual talent in the history.
I said Individual Talent
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BostonCeltics
Re: If LeBron win two titles - is he top 5 all-time?
i dont know where he would be, but he is in the conversation. Even with his MVP's alone nobody can seriously say this guy isn't great. 3 MVPS? only Kareem, MJ, Russell, Wilt can claim more than that and hes equal with Moses, Bird & Magic. Hes in that league, he is that good, people don't just win MVP's for nothing they mean a whole lot and the company that he is with is testament to that. If he picks up no rings over his career than hes never going to be considered close to the top and rightfully so even if he was as good or better than the players above him, but if he picks up championships then hes a no-doubt top 10. If he picks up a few championships and one or two more MVP's he will climb high in the lists he has. Anybody that says other wise is just a blatant hater discrediting the fact that he is one of the best. All that he needs to cement that is championships.
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DON'T FEED THE TROLL
Re: If LeBron win two titles - is he top 5 all-time?
If he wins two titles with two FMVP award he will be ahead of bird.Best SF in history.So he will be in top 10.However to be in top 5 he needs 3FMVPs and another MVP award.If he wins 4FMVPs and 5MVP awards i would put him top 3 behind Kareem or just ahead of kareem.However one title only top 12
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Re: If LeBron win two titles - is he top 5 all-time?
3rd after Jordan and Kareem
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Chasing Legends
Re: If LeBron win two titles - is he top 5 all-time?
Regular season MVP's mean f**k-all.
The post season is where a players legacy is built and for the first 8 years of his career it aint looking so good for Lebron. He should get a little slack because he was drafted by Cleveland and not the Lakers Celtics or Spurs, etc. However, his post season disappearing acts are hard to excuse.
His reputation also suffers a little because he left his to to join up with Wade and Bosh. The way it was done was really tacky and it made him look really bad. Dude is an amazing talent with a lot of baggage that has a tendency to put his foot in his mouth.
In my opinion it's going to take a hell of a lot to erase all that.
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How I feel in ur head
Re: If LeBron win two titles - is he top 5 all-time?
Originally Posted by Kobe 4 The Win
lol
Deal with it. Lebron's a better all-round player than Kobe ever was, just doesn't have the rings or FMVP to go with it. If he gets a couple of those it's obvious who is ranked higher.
But.. who knows if he'll get those? We'll have to wait and see.
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Re: If LeBron win two titles - is he top 5 all-time?
Originally Posted by Harison
No, even if Lebron wins 5 titles, he still wouldnt be Top5. Bird and Magic would be similarly accomplished with less bad baggage. Then we have actually dominant Dream and Shaq, then Timmy with Kobe.
With two titles, Lebron wouldnt even be in Top10.
Easily the dumbest post of the year.
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Re: If LeBron win two titles - is he top 5 all-time?
When it's all said and done Lebron will have a decent case for GOAT, with the consensus probable being top 3 or something.
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Re: If LeBron win two titles - is he top 5 all-time?
As someone had said before, Lebron has won more hypothetical championships than anyone else in the history of the league.
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Re: If LeBron win two titles - is he top 5 all-time?
Originally Posted by arifgokcen
If he wins two titles with two FMVP award he will be ahead of bird.Best SF in history.So he will be in top 10.However to be in top 5 he needs 3FMVPs and another MVP award.If he wins 4FMVPs and 5MVP awards i would put him top 3 behind Kareem or just ahead of kareem.However one title only top 12
Lebron is already ahead of Bird as the best SF of all time. The only edge Bird has is that he's won multiple championships, but that has more to do with the team as a whole and not individual players. For example, if Bird spent his entire career playing for the Warriors/Clippers/Bullets/Pacers in the 80s, he wouldn't have a single championship and probably wouldn't be on anyone's top 15 all-time list (based on individual stats and accomplishments alone) .
Last edited by midatlantic09; 05-12-2012 at 09:21 AM.
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