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Coach
Re: Let's get this out the way, Lakers are a better franchise than the Celtics.
Of course. Water is wet. But at the same time their fan base sucks. Ridiculously spoiled. Too biased to Laker centric players. Boston is the second greatest organization in the sport, and IMO their home grown / non bought talent makes them much more likable. The Lakers have that Yankees of basketball obnoxious entitlement, and aura to them.
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Re: Let's get this out the way, Lakers are a better franchise than the Celtics.
Originally Posted by BlackWhiteGreen
Do the Oklahoma City Thunder have a championship?
No. Don't know why that's relevant.
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College superstar
Re: Let's get this out the way, Lakers are a better franchise than the Celtics.
Originally Posted by Legends66NBA7
No. Don't know why that's relevant.
So championships don't count if they were won in a different city?
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NBA Superstar
Re: Let's get this out the way, Lakers are a better franchise than the Celtics.
Originally Posted by BlackWhiteGreen
So championships don't count if they were won in a different city?
Haven't the owners offered to "sell back" the Sonics team history if/when Seattle ever gets another team?
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College superstar
Re: Let's get this out the way, Lakers are a better franchise than the Celtics.
Originally Posted by SpecialQue
Haven't the owners offered to "sell back" the Sonics team history if/when Seattle ever gets another team?
Seattle don't have a team though, so the question is the same. At this point, the Thunder's 1979 NBA championship is as legitimate as the Los Angeles Lakers' in 1949, 1950, 1952, 1953, 1954.
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NBA Superstar
Re: Let's get this out the way, Lakers are a better franchise than the Celtics.
Originally Posted by BlackWhiteGreen
Seattle don't have a team though, so the question is the same. At this point, the Thunder's 1979 NBA championship is as legitimate as the Los Angeles Lakers' in 1949, 1950, 1952, 1953, 1954.
I disagree with this. Do any Seattle fans consider OKC their team? Do any Thunder fans talk fondly about the Seattle years?
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Knicks all da way
Re: Let's get this out the way, Lakers are a better franchise than the Celtics.
I love it, this rivalry should never die.
Laker fans should hate the Celtics and their fans and vice versa. It's not quite Redsox-Yankees, but was a rivalry in the 80s and even within the last 5 years. Please more rivalries are needed in this softened NBA where most the best players are running to 1 team.
Knicks-Nets rivalry to stay out of the cellar, leggo
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College superstar
Re: Let's get this out the way, Lakers are a better franchise than the Celtics.
Originally Posted by SpecialQue
I disagree with this. Do any Seattle fans consider OKC their team? Do any Thunder fans talk fondly about the Seattle years?
Did Laker fans do the same in the early 60s? How well do you think die hard Minneapolis Lakers fans took it in 1960, probably not a whole lot better than Sonics fans did.
Answer this honestly: If the Thunder have 15 NBA titles by 2060, and Seattle never gets another team, how many people do you think will care about the Sonics then?
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Re: Let's get this out the way, Lakers are a better franchise than the Celtics.
Originally Posted by BlackWhiteGreen
So championships don't count if they were won in a different city?
No, I thought you mean just the OKC tenure.
Again, that's 1 title. What are you getting at ? And no, all the titles count. I'm not in that territory to discredit a team and their title.
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College superstar
Re: Let's get this out the way, Lakers are a better franchise than the Celtics.
Originally Posted by Legends66NBA7
No, I thought you mean just the OKC tenure.
Again, that's 1 title. What are you getting at ? And no, all the titles count. I'm not in that territory to discredit a team and their title.
http://stewthornley.net/mplslakers.html
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College superstar
Re: Let's get this out the way, Lakers are a better franchise than the Celtics.
Originally Posted by Nick Young
By that logic no one on here started following basketball before 06.
I'm from the UK. Aren't you a Chelsea fan? So you're from Los Angeles and London? Impressive.
I notice you can't actually come up with any argument against any point I make, so thanks for validating my argument
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NBA Superstar
Re: Let's get this out the way, Lakers are a better franchise than the Celtics.
Originally Posted by BlackWhiteGreen
Did Laker fans do the same in the early 60s? How well do you think die hard Minneapolis Lakers fans took it in 1960, probably not a whole lot better than Sonics fans did.
Answer this honestly: If the Thunder have 15 NBA titles by 2060, and Seattle never gets another team, how many people do you think will care about the Sonics then?
The fans, the franchise owners, the players, sports writers, and the NBA all count the Minneapolis titles. The only people who don't are a few scattered people with agendas and "well, actually" arguments. It's part of the team's history, and no amount of hypotheticals is going to somehow "remove" those titles from the team history. It's the same reason why their first season as the Detroit Gems isn't counted. I get that this is something to give the Celtics franchise an "edge" over the Lakers, but it's still a weak argument when only a handful or people agree with you, and the vast majority don't.
Whatever happens with the Thunder is irrelevant to this topic. The owners and the fanbase agreed to "start over" when the moved the team, hence the name change and former Sonics players not wanting their numbers retired in Oklahoma.
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College star
Re: Let's get this out the way, Lakers are a better franchise than the Celtics.
its hilarious when you see laker fans rooting for boston against lebron then claim they're long time laker fans
dat insecurity
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Kobe Apostle
Re: Let's get this out the way, Lakers are a better franchise than the Celtics.
Originally Posted by BlackWhiteGreen
All-Time Series 197-155 BOS
Regular Season 154–124 (.555) Boston
Post-season history
Playoff Series 43–31 (BOS)
1959 NBA Finals Celtics won, 4–0
1962 NBA Finals Celtics won, 4–3
1963 NBA Finals Celtics won, 4–2
1965 NBA Finals Celtics won, 4–1
1966 NBA Finals Celtics won, 4–3
1968 NBA Finals Celtics won, 4–2
1969 NBA Finals Celtics won, 4–3
1984 NBA Finals Celtics won, 4–3
1985 NBA Finals Lakers won, 4–2
1987 NBA Finals Lakers won, 4–2
2008 NBA Finals Celtics won, 4–2
2010 NBA Finals Lakers won, 4–3
Series H2H 9-3 BOS (.750)
Conference Championships
Lakers: 31
Celtics: 21
Missed Playoffs:
Lakers: 6
Celtics: 17
Regular season record:
Lakers: 3184-1973
Celtics: 3121-2145
1948-49: Lakers win Title, Celtics miss Playoffs
1949-50: Lakers win Title, Celtics miss Playoffs
1951-52: Lakers win Title, Celtics lose in Semifinals
1952-53: Lakers win Title, Celtics lose in Semifinals
1953-54: Lakers win Title, Celtics lose in Conference Finals
1971-72: Lakers win Title, Celtics lose in Conference Finals
1979-80: Lakers win Title, Celtics lose in Conference Finals
1981-82: Lakers win Title, Celtics lose in Conference Finals
1987-88: Lakers win Title, Celtics lose in Conference Finals
1999-00: Lakers win Title, Celtics miss Playoffs
2000-01: Lakers win Title, Celtics miss Playoffs
2001-02: Lakers win Title, Celtics lose in Conference Finals
2008-09: Lakers win Title, Celtics lose in Semifinals
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