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MJ dropping 44 on the Jazz (1996-1997 season)
This one's for you, kenneth, since we know you'll still be talking about Kobe after he's retired like MJ fans still talk about MJ. Enjoy, mutha[COLOR="Black"]f[/COLOR]ucka :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blMLtpXUqZI
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: MJ dropping 44 on the Jazz (1996-1997 season)
Shot profile of MJ's made field goals in this game:
2-point jumpshots: 13
Dunks: 2
Layups: 1
As you can see, MJ got 44 points on almost all jumpshots.. and they were 2-point jumpshots - all highly contested..
This was standard - MJ has tons of 40, 50, and 60 point games on all jumpers... For example, he dropped 64 on Shaq's Magic, where all but 5 shots were jumpshots... He dropped 54 on virtually ALL jumpers in a legendary Game 5 of 1993 ECF... This was against the Knicks vaunted defense - one of the best defenses of all time.
MJ and Bird are likely the greatest 2-point jumpshooters of all time.
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Last edited by 3ball; 11-12-2015 at 03:21 AM.
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Gif-ted
Re: MJ dropping 44 on the Jazz (1996-1997 season)
0-6 from three's
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: MJ dropping 44 on the Jazz (1996-1997 season)
Originally Posted by bigkingsfan
0-6 from three's
44 points on all 2-pointers... .... That's true skill right there.
Of course, Jordan averaged 37 ppg in 1987 on all 2-pointers... He still shot 59% ts
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WayOfWade
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Re: MJ dropping 44 on the Jazz (1996-1997 season)
Originally Posted by 3ball
Shot profile of MJ's made field goals in this game:
2-point jumpshots: 13
Dunks: 2
Layups: 1
As you can see, MJ got 44 points on almost all jumpshots.. and they were 2-point jumpshots - all highly contested..
This was standard - MJ has tons of 40, 50, and 60 point games on all jumpers... For example, he dropped 64 on Shaq's Magic, where all but 5 shots were jumpshots... He dropped 54 on virtually ALL jumpers in a legendary Game 5 of 1993 ECF... This was against the Knicks vaunted defense - one of the best defenses of all time.
MJ and Bird are likely the greatest 2-point jumpshooters of all time.
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Wow that is incredible. I remember Carmelo I think scoring 50 against the Heat in 2013 with 0 points in the paint, but that was a garbage game where none of the Heats' Big 3 played. MJ doing it in the playoffs is unbelievable
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Re: MJ dropping 44 on the Jazz (1996-1997 season)
Originally Posted by 3ball
44 points on all 2-pointers... .... That's true skill right there.
Of course, Jordan averaged 37 ppg in 1987 on all 2-pointers... He still shot 59% ts
Curry shot 64% TS last year, next.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: MJ dropping 44 on the Jazz (1996-1997 season)
Originally Posted by bigkingsfan
Curry shot 64% TS last year, next.
Without the 3-point line, Curry goes from taking 10+ high efficiency three-pointers per game at 44%, to taking 10+ low efficiency, long two's every game - Curry is just lucky the 3-point line turns him from low-efficiency gunner into a top player...
But long two's at 44% don't hurt a defense, so he'd be a much worse player without the line.
Otoh, MJ averaged 37 ppg on 59% ts on all two's... So unlike Curry, we know MJ would still be goat if the 3-point line was removed (like the 70's).. MJ doesn't need the 3-point line to be a top player.
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Re: MJ dropping 44 on the Jazz (1996-1997 season)
Originally Posted by 3ball
Without the 3-point line, Curry goes from taking 10+ high efficiency three-pointers per game at 44%, to taking 10+ low efficiency, long two's every game - Curry is just lucky the 3-point line turns him from low-efficiency gunner into a top player...
But long two's at 44% don't hurt a defense, so he'd be a much worse player without the line.
Otoh, MJ averaged 37 ppg on 59% ts on all two's... So unlike Curry, we know MJ would still be goat if the 3-point line was removed.. MJ doesn't need the 3-point line to be a top player.
They both played with the three point line, who cares. MJ shot 0-6 with a shorter distance, next.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: MJ dropping 44 on the Jazz (1996-1997 season)
Originally Posted by bigkingsfan
They both played with the three point line, who cares. MJ shot 0-6 with a shorter distance, next.
MJ's the greatest player of all time, while Curry is something far less.
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And btw, the point is that Curry wouldn't be a top player in eras that didn't have the 3-point line, while MJ would... Maravich > Curry in the 70's
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Re: MJ dropping 44 on the Jazz (1996-1997 season)
Originally Posted by 3ball
MJ's the greatest player of all time, while Curry is something far less.
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And btw, the point is that Curry wouldn't be a top player in eras that didn't have the 3-point line, while MJ would
Both players wouldn't amount to anything if Basketball was never invented. Agreed.
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Re: MJ dropping 44 on the Jazz (1996-1997 season)
BIGkingsfan stays WINNING
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: MJ dropping 44 on the Jazz (1996-1997 season)
Originally Posted by bigkingsfan
Both players wouldn't amount to anything if Basketball was never invented. Agreed.
Translation: you're right
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NBA Legend
Re: MJ dropping 44 on the Jazz (1996-1997 season)
Originally Posted by 3ball
Without the 3-point line, Curry goes from taking 10+ high efficiency three-pointers per game at 44%, to taking 10+ low efficiency, long two's every game - Curry is just lucky the 3-point line turns him from low-efficiency gunner into a top player...
But long two's at 44% don't hurt a defense, so he'd be a much worse player without the line.
Otoh, MJ averaged 37 ppg on 59% ts on all two's... So unlike Curry, we know MJ would still be goat if the 3-point line was removed (like the 70's).. MJ doesn't need the 3-point line to be a top player.
You've gone off the rails. Talking about how a player is lucky to use a rule that has been around for decades, including when MJ played.
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Re: MJ dropping 44 on the Jazz (1996-1997 season)
If MJ played in the 50's before that dumb shot-clock invention he would have been a scrub.
Mikan would have dominated his bald ass.
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The triggerer
Re: MJ dropping 44 on the Jazz (1996-1997 season)
So what? King James shot 27% on jumpshots last years finals.
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