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    Default Re: Scottie Pippen cost the Bulls the championship in 1990 and 4-peat - FACT

    Quote Originally Posted by Droid101
    Holy shit bran just took 35 shots per game in the last series he played in and you have the audacity to say that JORDAN can't get his teammates involved??

    You do realize that Pip was an All-Star that season, right? Dude was a terrific player. Compare rosters in the Finals. Kobeturd...

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    Default Re: Scottie Pippen cost the Bulls the championship in 1990 and 4-peat - FACT

    Quote Originally Posted by aj1987
    You do realize that Pip was an All-Star that season, right? Dude was a terrific player. Compare rosters in the Finals. Kobeturd...
    Go right ahead and compare the rosters. When comparing them, a rational person would say "Yep, JR, Delly, and the rest of the shit cast shot terribly, because they suck."

    and: "Wow! Pippen really choked hard there didn't he? All star played like shit, wet the bed, cost the series."

    That's what you should be saying looking at the box scores.

    Not "Jordan just doesn't know how to get the best out of his players." Are you ****ing kidding me?

    "wadeturd" in what ever way that is relevant to the discussion.

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    Default Re: Scottie Pippen cost the Bulls the championship in 1990 and 4-peat - FACT

    Quote Originally Posted by Trollsmasher
    that game was a prime example of Jordan being absolutely incapable of maximizing the effectivness of his teammates

    in fact he did the exact opposite (he held the ball for 15 minutes in that game, clean time)

    the loss falls squarely on his shoulders



    that is the story of his entire career - players suffered while playing with him
    Ouch. 1-10 and 2 points in the ECF? Damm.

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    Default Re: Scottie Pippen cost the Bulls the championship in 1990 and 4-peat - FACT

    Quote Originally Posted by Droid101
    Go right ahead and compare the rosters. When comparing them, a rational person would say "Yep, JR, Delly, and the rest of the shit cast shot terribly, because they suck."

    and: "Wow! Pippen really choked hard there didn't he? All star played like shit, wet the bed, cost the series."

    That's what you should be saying looking at the box scores.

    Not "Jordan just doesn't know how to get the best out of his players." Are you ****ing kidding me?

    "wadeturd" in what ever way that is relevant to the discussion.
    I'm trying to point out that there was literally no one on the Cav's on the level of some of those Bulls players.

    Yeah, MJ/JR/Shump/Delly/Mozgov would've been an AMAZING team...

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    Default Re: Scottie Pippen cost the Bulls the championship in 1990 and 4-peat - FACT

    Quote Originally Posted by aj1987
    I'm trying to point out that there was literally no one on the Cav's on the level of some of those Bulls players.
    Yes, those Cavs players were expected to play like shit. This is not LeBron's fault.

    Pippen was expected to play well, and didn't in game 7. This was not Jordan's fault.

    Glad we're in agreement there.

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    Default Re: Scottie Pippen cost the Bulls the championship in 1990 and 4-peat - FACT

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    The Bulls took the Pistons 7 games in 1990 ECF, whereas the Blazers only took them 6 in the Finals.

    Based on this, we can conclude that MJ's Bulls would've beaten Clyde's Blazers in 1990 Finals.

    Unfortunately, Pippen famously disappeared in the critical Game 7 against Detroit.. He later admitted in the Bad Boys documentary (link below), that "the pressure" caused him to score only 2 points and 1-10 fg in the series-decider:

    "..it was the pressure.. As the pressure grew, the pounding grew.. I wasn't able to answer the bell."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqC74bv46Z8&t=1h22m15s


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    Yeah, saw that on the Bad Boys doc. He pretty much admitted he choked. I always laugh when I watch that part. Not many people are willing to admit they choked. He did.

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    Default Re: Scottie Pippen cost the Bulls the championship in 1990 and 4-peat - FACT

    Quote Originally Posted by Droid101
    Yes, those Cavs players were expected to play like shit. This is not LeBron's fault.

    Pippen was expected to play well, and didn't in game 7. This was not Jordan's fault.

    Glad we're in agreement there.

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    Default Re: Scottie Pippen cost the Bulls the championship in 1990 and 4-peat - FACT

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    The Bulls took the Pistons 7 games in 1990 ECF, whereas the Blazers only took them 6 in the Finals.

    Based on this, we can conclude that MJ's Bulls would've beaten Clyde's Blazers in 1990 Finals.

    Unfortunately, Pippen famously disappeared in the critical Game 7 against Detroit.. He later admitted in the Bad Boys documentary (link below), that "the pressure" caused him to score only 2 points and 1-10 fg in the series-decider:

    "..it was the pressure.. As the pressure grew, the pounding grew.. I wasn't able to answer the bell."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqC74bv46Z8&t=1h22m15s


    Pippen cost Bulls the 1990 championship..
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    Yeah man weird, MJ also cost the bulls an 11 peat with various gaffes throughout his career.
    86-89 he played such a ball dominant sub optimal style of play that his team's were predictable and easily beaten in the postseason. He averaged 37 one season, 35-6-6, 32-8-8 and couldn't get it done.

    In 89 (the year he went on the stat padding streak) he couldn't beat the pistons. He was actually up 2-1 against the champs and choked it away. What's amazing is a little known fact he quit in game 5 of the eastern conference finals with a chance to go up 3-2 and take command with a possible trip to the finals. He took 8 shots in 46 minutes. They lost in 6. Had he taken a bigger percentage of his team's shots and went down fighting he'd have been in the finals like lebron this year. And he'd surely have won the championship because according to you he guarded magic most of the series and and out dueled him as a point guard that series.

    In 90 the year in question Mj couldn't get it done with an allstar teammate in scottie. It went to 7 games and again MJ failed to carry enough of the load to beat the pistons. So he couldn't win one game (game 7) against the champs with his 2nd and 3rd option not playing their best? Damn imagine if his 2nd and 3rd option hadn't been there at all....(Lebron 2 wins)

    In 94 he left a team that had just went to 3 straight finals and they still won 55 without him. And perhaps were just a shady call from the finals....

    95 he came back and couldn't get it done against the magic, famously choking late in one of the crucial moments.

    99 he decided again to walk away when it was clear his all time great cast wouldn't be kept together by management aka unstacking his deck.

    11 peat ruined, thanks goat.
    [COLOR="White"]/3ball logic. Btw these were all stupid arguments you used in recent threads[/COLOR].

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    Default Re: Scottie Pippen cost the Bulls the championship in 1990 and 4-peat - FACT

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    The Bulls took the Pistons 7 games in 1990 ECF, whereas the Blazers only took them 6 in the Finals.

    Based on this, we can conclude that MJ's Bulls would've beaten Clyde's Blazers in 1990 Finals.

    Unfortunately, Pippen famously disappeared in the critical Game 7 against Detroit.. He later admitted in the Bad Boys documentary (link below), that "the pressure" caused him to score only 2 points and 1-10 fg in the series-decider:

    "..it was the pressure.. As the pressure grew, the pounding grew.. I wasn't able to answer the bell."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqC74bv46Z8&t=1h22m15s


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    Arguing against nobody you are.

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    Default Re: Scottie Pippen cost the Bulls the championship in 1990 and 4-peat - FACT

    The Detroit Pistons cost the Bulls the championship in 1990. FACT.

    OP's theory doesn't make sense...1-9

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    Default Re: Scottie Pippen cost the Bulls the championship in 1990 and 4-peat - FACT

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    The Bulls took the Pistons 7 games in 1990 ECF, whereas the Blazers only took them 6 in the Finals.

    Based on this, we can conclude that MJ's Bulls would've beaten Clyde's Blazers in 1990 Finals.
    So by this same genius logic, the '95 Magic beat the '95 Bulls in 6 but got swept by the '95 Rockets. Based on this, we can conclude MJ's Bulls would have gotten stomped by Hakeem's Rockets in the 1995 Finals

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    Default Re: Scottie Pippen cost the Bulls the championship in 1990 and 4-peat - FACT

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    This is even better:
    I know, pretty irrefutable huh

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