Marv Albert and Mike Fratello just said Tim Duncan could average Astronomical Numbers

[kennethgriffin]

..... if he didn't understand basketball

[Kblaze8855]

Astronomical is a stretch at his age due to minutes but even today he has more offensive talent than a lot of people who have done the kind of scoring numbers people equate with being good or great. Not shooting and not being able to score are not at all the same thing.

Duncan has scored less than he potentially could for at least the last 10 years because letting others shine is how they develop the confidence to come through when it matters.

he either has a better understanding of how to be part of a functioning team or he's at least being coached towards it better than most. he's been a better option in the post than any number of role players taking pull up jumpers for a decade but he doesn't argue because when it comes down to it a team full of less talented people confidently playing the right way can beat a team full of stars and role players who don't step up when it matters.

long story short.....Tim Duncan could produce astronomical numbers if he didn't understand basketball. or at least he could before he didn't have it in him to go hard for 35 or 40 minutes. today he could produce very good numbers if he were going to be a dick and make his team worse to get them.

he doesn't care about some idiot on the internet saying he only scored 8 points in a blowout win. He cares about the blowout win. The rest is irrelevant as it should be. his unselfishness when his status on the team is such that they would do anything for him is the backbone of the whole organization. How can a nobody be selfish when the greatest player in franchise history will take two shots and not complain if the team wins?

Tim Duncan is chemistry in human form.

[dhsilv]

Astronomical is a stretch at his age due to minutes but even today he has more offensive talent than a lot of people who have done the kind of scoring numbers people equate with being good or great. Not shooting and not being able to score are not at all the same thing.

Duncan has scored less than he potentially could for at least the last 10 years because letting others shine is how they develop the confidence to come through when it matters.

he either has a better understanding of how to be part of a functioning team or he's at least being coached towards it better than most. he's been a better option in the post than any number of role players taking pull up jumpers for a decade but he doesn't argue because when it comes down to it a team full of less talented people confidently playing the right way can beat a team full of stars and role players who don't step up when it matters.

long story short.....Tim Duncan could produce astronomical numbers if he didn't understand basketball. or at least he could before he didn't have it in him to go hard for 35 or 40 minutes. today he could produce very good numbers if he were going to be a dick and make his team worse to get them.

he doesn't care about some idiot on the internet saying he only scored 8 points in a blowout win. He cares about the blowout win. The rest is irrelevant as it should be. his unselfishness when his status on the team is such that they would do anything for him is the backbone of the whole organization. How can a nobody be selfish when the greatest player in franchise history will take two shots and not complain if the team wins?

Tim Duncan is chemistry in human form.

THIS!

[TheImmortal]

Astronomical is a stretch at his age due to minutes but even today he has more offensive talent than a lot of people who have done the kind of scoring numbers people equate with being good or great. Not shooting and not being able to score are not at all the same thing.

Duncan has scored less than he potentially could for at least the last 10 years because letting others shine is how they develop the confidence to come through when it matters.

he either has a better understanding of how to be part of a functioning team or he's at least being coached towards it better than most. he's been a better option in the post than any number of role players taking pull up jumpers for a decade but he doesn't argue because when it comes down to it a team full of less talented people confidently playing the right way can beat a team full of stars and role players who don't step up when it matters.

long story short.....Tim Duncan could produce astronomical numbers if he didn't understand basketball. or at least he could before he didn't have it in him to go hard for 35 or 40 minutes. today he could produce very good numbers if he were going to be a dick and make his team worse to get them.

he doesn't care about some idiot on the internet saying he only scored 8 points in a blowout win. He cares about the blowout win. The rest is irrelevant as it should be. his unselfishness when his status on the team is such that they would do anything for him is the backbone of the whole organization. How can a nobody be selfish when the greatest player in franchise history will take two shots and not complain if the team wins?

Tim Duncan is chemistry in human form.

at this drivel. Stop while you're ahead.

Tim Duncan is a glorified role player/garbage man at this juncture in his career. Not saying that's a bad thing, it just is what it is. Spurs system and their array of talented players (Kawhi esp) makes it very easy for Duncan. Duncan on say the Lakers would be exposed and rendered ineffective.

[tmacattack33]

Astronomical is a stretch at his age due to minutes but even today he has more offensive talent than a lot of people who have done the kind of scoring numbers people equate with being good or great. Not shooting and not being able to score are not at all the same thing.

Duncan has scored less than he potentially could for at least the last 10 years because letting others shine is how they develop the confidence to come through when it matters.

he either has a better understanding of how to be part of a functioning team or he's at least being coached towards it better than most. he's been a better option in the post than any number of role players taking pull up jumpers for a decade but he doesn't argue because when it comes down to it a team full of less talented people confidently playing the right way can beat a team full of stars and role players who don't step up when it matters.

long story short.....Tim Duncan could produce astronomical numbers if he didn't understand basketball. or at least he could before he didn't have it in him to go hard for 35 or 40 minutes. today he could produce very good numbers if he were going to be a dick and make his team worse to get them.

he doesn't care about some idiot on the internet saying he only scored 8 points in a blowout win. He cares about the blowout win. The rest is irrelevant as it should be. his unselfishness when his status on the team is such that they would do anything for him is the backbone of the whole organization. How can a nobody be selfish when the greatest player in franchise history will take two shots and not complain if the team wins?

Tim Duncan is chemistry in human form.

[kennethgriffin]

Astronomical is a stretch at his age due to minutes but even today he has more offensive talent than a lot of people who have done the kind of scoring numbers people equate with being good or great. Not shooting and not being able to score are not at all the same thing.

Duncan has scored less than he potentially could for at least the last 10 years because letting others shine is how they develop the confidence to come through when it matters.

he either has a better understanding of how to be part of a functioning team or he's at least being coached towards it better than most. he's been a better option in the post than any number of role players taking pull up jumpers for a decade but he doesn't argue because when it comes down to it a team full of less talented people confidently playing the right way can beat a team full of stars and role players who don't step up when it matters.

long story short.....Tim Duncan could produce astronomical numbers if he didn't understand basketball. or at least he could before he didn't have it in him to go hard for 35 or 40 minutes. today he could produce very good numbers if he were going to be a dick and make his team worse to get them.

he doesn't care about some idiot on the internet saying he only scored 8 points in a blowout win. He cares about the blowout win. The rest is irrelevant as it should be. his unselfishness when his status on the team is such that they would do anything for him is the backbone of the whole organization. How can a nobody be selfish when the greatest player in franchise history will take two shots and not complain if the team wins?

Tim Duncan is chemistry in human form.

they said during his prime. not now. and even today i think duncan is at best good for 15ppg


during his prime he maxed out at 25ppg and it was for one season.

99% of the time during his prime he was only a 21-22ppg guy

i dont think he was ever capable of much more than that. or else we would have seen it during years that the spurs struggled to score or didnt have 2-3 stars

like 2001,2002,2003,2004

surely during those years if duncan was ever capable of more he would have showcased it

[dhsilv]

at this drivel. Stop while you're ahead.

Tim Duncan is a glorified role player/garbage man at this juncture in his career. Not saying that's a bad thing, it just is what it is. Spurs system and their array of talented players (Kawhi esp) makes it very easy for Duncan. Duncan on say the Lakers would be exposed and rendered ineffective.

Duncan would still be a value add on the lakers. He'd likely have much "better" numbers because he'd need to contribute more scoring and rebounding and even minutes. He'd however not do so beyond what adds value to the team. Once it was no longer valuable to dominate the ball more, he'd defer to the other players. Just like he's always done.

If you swap say a Kobe and a Duncan, the spurs would be worse off and the lakers better off. There's really no debate about this. Odds are we could say the same about a LOT of players as well. Duncan is about winning first, and he does what it takes.

[dhsilv]

they said during his prime. not now. and even today i think duncan is at best good for 15ppg


during his prime he maxed out at 25ppg and it was for one season.

99% of the time during his prime he was only a 21-22ppg guy

i dont think he was ever capable of much more than that. or else we would have seen it during years that the spurs struggled to score or didnt have 2-3 stars

like 2001,2002,2003,2004

surely during those years if duncan was ever capable of more he would have showcased it

His best scoring years were at a pace of around 90 in one of the slowest eras of the nba. Put him with a team that could play faster, and he'd have scored more. If he had ago and was willing to score at the expense of the team, he'd have easily averaged 10-20% more. But that would have hurt the team and Duncan isn't an idiot.

Duncan averaged 17 in the playoffs last year. I'm not sure he can do that for 70 games, but he has 20+ point scoring in him if it is needed even still.

[r0drig0lac]

Astronomical is a stretch at his age due to minutes but even today he has more offensive talent than a lot of people who have done the kind of scoring numbers people equate with being good or great. Not shooting and not being able to score are not at all the same thing.

Duncan has scored less than he potentially could for at least the last 10 years because letting others shine is how they develop the confidence to come through when it matters.

he either has a better understanding of how to be part of a functioning team or he's at least being coached towards it better than most. he's been a better option in the post than any number of role players taking pull up jumpers for a decade but he doesn't argue because when it comes down to it a team full of less talented people confidently playing the right way can beat a team full of stars and role players who don't step up when it matters.

long story short.....Tim Duncan could produce astronomical numbers if he didn't understand basketball. or at least he could before he didn't have it in him to go hard for 35 or 40 minutes. today he could produce very good numbers if he were going to be a dick and make his team worse to get them.

he doesn't care about some idiot on the internet saying he only scored 8 points in a blowout win. He cares about the blowout win. The rest is irrelevant as it should be. his unselfishness when his status on the team is such that they would do anything for him is the backbone of the whole organization. How can a nobody be selfish when the greatest player in franchise history will take two shots and not complain if the team wins?

Tim Duncan is chemistry in human form.

damn

[TommyGriffin]

Tim is Tim. Regardless of his sexuality he is still a great player at this stage of his career.

[Kblaze8855]

at this drivel. Stop while you're ahead.

Or what exactly? Youre gonna disagree and im not gonna give a damn what you think?

Tim Duncan is a glorified role player/garbage man at this juncture in his career. Not saying that's a bad thing, it just is what it is. Spurs system and their array of talented players (Kawhi esp) makes it very easy for Duncan. Duncan on say the Lakers would be exposed and rendered ineffective.

Feel free to think so. You have hated on Duncan for some time. I dont much value your opinion on him.

Feel free not to value mine. Im 100% sure which of us history will remember as correct.

Tim Duncan being praised just annoys some people. I dont get it....but ive seen enough to not get too emotionally invested in defending him. People who hate on Tim Duncan...in my eyes...have little appreciation for the game.

Its a very good way for me to tell who I do and dont need to have a real conversation with. Tim Duncan haters and I just arent compatibile as fans of the game. We arent looking for the same things. Arent seeing out of the same kind of eyes.

Hard to ever come to an understanding.

[La Frescobaldi]

at this drivel. Stop while you're ahead.

Tim Duncan is a glorified role player/garbage man at this juncture in his career. Not saying that's a bad thing, it just is what it is. Spurs system and their array of talented players (Kawhi esp) makes it very easy for Duncan. Duncan on say the Lakers would be exposed and rendered ineffective.

gosh could there be a wronger post than that one?

Put Tim Duncan on the Lakers right now, bench Kobe instantly, and the Lakers finish the season ahead of Sacramento in the Pacific.