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Old 07-15-2010, 08:45 PM   #31
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Barbosa/Jack
Derozan/Belinelli
Diaw/Kleiza/Weems
Bargs/Davis/Dorsey
Chandler/Amir/Alabi

Banks/Evens to be moved at trade deadline for (?) draft picks or (?) Both exprie this years if I recall and should be valuable to some teams.

Total salary will be at the revised cap as far as I can tell - especially after you move the above 2 players.

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Its more than obvious that it is Boston/Miami/Orlando and everyone else in the East. Bucks/Chicago/Hawks look strong in the next tier.

Are the Raptors in a tier with the above? Is this a playoff team with enough depth to "slightly scare" one of the big 3 ?

Honestly I dont really know. I get the team will have to gel - will have work out roles and chemistry. Plus we have a new assitant coach with a ton of experience... how that will play out will be interesting.

Looks like a fun season to watch what happens.
Why wont they just let the team be bad and get a good pick
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Old 07-15-2010, 09:16 PM   #32
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Subract Chandler and Diaw from Jballer's post and the likelihood of the team winning 30 games (did the OP really say 45?) goes even more downhill.

I assume Calderon will still be shipped out for some package, so it's hard to make a prediction not knowing if he'll be on the team/what the return is.

Like someone above me said, where does the offense come from? Unless Bargnani proves he can create his own shots, it's going to be frustrating to watch this team in a half-court setting.
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Old 07-15-2010, 09:25 PM   #33
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The only legit way I could see this exact team finishing anywhere close to .500 is if we switched Jose Calderon with Steve Nash, other than that it would be a miracle/shock.

edit: or if as Chamberlain says, Bargnani goes through a major transformation of his game.
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Old 07-15-2010, 09:37 PM   #34
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Bargnani has just been traded for Nowitzki!.....A man can dream...
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Old 07-15-2010, 09:50 PM   #35
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Bargnani has just been traded for Nowitzki!.....A man can dream...
omg, even though I knew that had to be complete bullshit I got excited for a quick second.
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Old 07-15-2010, 10:23 PM   #36
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Bargnani will SHINE, you guys have no idea!!
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Old 07-15-2010, 10:29 PM   #37
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Bargnani will SHINE, you guys have no idea!!

I sincerely hope that you are right.
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Old 07-15-2010, 11:04 PM   #38
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I sincerely hope that you are right.
I will be, trust me...
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Old 07-16-2010, 10:27 AM   #39
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Subract Chandler and Diaw from Jballer's post and the likelihood of the team winning 30 games (did the OP really say 45?) goes even more downhill.

Ya I posted that before MJ and LB pulled the plug on the trade.

Clearly the east is now 3 - 3 - Next. The 3! (Orlando, Miami, Boston) The 3 > (Atlanta, Chicago, Milw Bucks) and the rest (?).

Looking at the team - I admit to being optimistic. I like teams with lots of depth and teams that do more than expected. I like the Detriot Piston type champs - not the dreamteam type champs.

I will go out and say 34 wins... knowing full well that that is glass half full. A goodly 14 of those wins will have to come from the west and 20 from the rest i.e. Knicks, Cavs, 76ers, Pistons, Bobcats, Wizards etc.

None of those wins is easy to project just on paper - I understand that!

If the chemistry of the young guns (option 1a) is that good, and Barges - Kliza - Babosa? stand out as a 1a 1b type of option I think these Raptors can make a name for themselves; albiet without much defense (yet again).

They will be fun to watch.

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Old 07-16-2010, 03:53 PM   #40
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There was a thread in the main forum about the most irrelevant NBA team and nearly everybody said the Raptors? I know it's a bit off topic but I guess the immense fan base that this organization has is not recognized throughout the league? Or do our American neighbors ignore our team because they play in a Canadian city?
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Old 07-16-2010, 05:57 PM   #41
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There was a thread in the main forum about the most irrelevant NBA team and nearly everybody said the Raptors? I know it's a bit off topic but I guess the immense fan base that this organization has is not recognized throughout the league? Or do our American neighbors ignore our team because they play in a Canadian city?

I don't think it has anything to do with being Canadian...to me relevance begins with a pencilled in playoff spot followed by talks of a home playoff spot. Two features the Raps cannot lay claim to either of these two.

As a fan, I believe the team will get there.
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Old 07-16-2010, 06:50 PM   #42
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I will be, trust me...

I don't think anyone is cheering against the guy, and I'm sure we all hope you're right, but past performance leaves most of us skeptical.

I'm pulling for him, but I have a "show me" attitude right now.
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Old 07-16-2010, 07:02 PM   #43
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I don't think anyone is cheering against the guy, and I'm sure we all hope you're right, but past performance leaves most of us skeptical.

I'm pulling for him, but I have a "show me" attitude right now.

Only reason I'd cheer for him is because he could become good trade bait. I still think this lilbeastnani kid is jrcp3 kid....
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Old 07-16-2010, 07:13 PM   #44
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Not a chance
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Old 07-16-2010, 07:22 PM   #45
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Only reason I'd cheer for him is because he could become good trade bait. I still think this lilbeastnani kid is jrcp3 kid....
But the thing is, if he plays well he's staying. If he doesn't play well, he's staying. It doesn't matter either way so i'm just hoping he does well so that we aren't stuck overpaying a 6th man.
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