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National High School Star
The truth about Bill Russell.
Would be a bit better than Prime Ben Wallace if played in this Era.
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College star
Re: The truth about Bill Russell.
So he would be better than a guy who put up 15 rpg and 4 bpg?
So something like 11-17-5 would not be unreasonable? I'd take that any time.
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Re: The truth about Bill Russell.
I'd say around 10-15-4 or something? I'm not even hating, the game these days just doesn't really revolve around centers.
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Local High School Star
Re: The truth about Bill Russell.
Originally Posted by Richesly
Would be a bit better than Prime Ben Wallace if played in this Era.
It works both ways: Ben Wallace would be a puny, offensively vulnerable, free throw brick artist if he played in the 1960s.
Remember, weight training just didn't really happen back then (Wilt was one of the first to bother with it), and their diet/nutrition was a lot worse than it is today. Also, could Wallace have coped with the nightly racism? What about adapting to a fast-paced team-ball style of play?
The fact is, all a player can do is beat the competition put in front of him during his respective era. Bill Russell absolutely did that better than anyone in NBA history.
Ben Wallace was approximately the 10-15th best player of the 2000s.
Who's to say he wouldn't have been the 10-15th best player in the 1960s, while Russell was the very best?
Last edited by WillC; 10-28-2011 at 07:50 AM.
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Re: The truth about Bill Russell.
Poor mans kawme brown at best.
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Local High School Star
Re: The truth about Bill Russell.
Originally Posted by asdf1990
Poor mans kawme brown at best.
I wonder if, in 50 years' time, people will say that some scrub shooting guard in 2061 is as good as Michael Jordan was in the 1990s.
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I Insist
Re: The truth about Bill Russell.
Russell was 3 inches taller with a tremendous wing span. Different player.
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The Awakening
Re: The truth about Bill Russell.
Originally Posted by Richesly
Would be a bit better than Prime Ben Wallace if played in this Era.
True, and Shaq in '60 would be a towel boy
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Re: The truth about Bill Russell.
Originally Posted by JohnnySic
Russell was 3 inches taller with a tremendous wing span. Different player.
They are both listed at 6-9..
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Re: The truth about Bill Russell.
Originally Posted by WillC
I wonder if, in 50 years' time, people will say that some scrub shooting guard in 2061 is as good as Michael Jordan was in the 1990s.
We say that now a days. Poor manS tony Allan.
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Scott Hastings Fan
Re: The truth about Bill Russell.
The truth about Russell and every other great player is that while they were typically world class athletes, it's their mental abilities that made them great and that translates to any era.
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Please clap.
Re: The truth about Bill Russell.
Russell ran track at USF. Was one of the best high jumpers in the country and ran the 440 in 49.6. He would have still been a great athlete if he played today and would have been a decent offensive player with a good pg to set him up for lay-ups and dunks. The Ben Wallace comparisons are uninformed. He scored 14,000 points and had 18+ ppg seasons. Russell was not the offensive player you expect an elite big to be but that doesn't mean he was a bad offensive player.
It is impossible to know what the exact effect of changing eras would be but a man with Russell's competitive drive, size, intelligence and athletic ability is going to succeed.
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I Insist
Re: The truth about Bill Russell.
They are both listed at 6-9..
Creative listings.
Ben Wallace isn't even 6'7 without shoes. Danny Ainge (who is a legit 6'5") stood next to him and said Ben was 6'6 1/2".
Russell was a legit 6'9.5" and would be 6'11" in today's sneaker height NBA. Even in his 70's he's almost as tall as KG:
Last edited by JohnnySic; 10-28-2011 at 08:26 AM.
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Re: The truth about Bill Russell.
Russell would be 16ppg/16rpg/5apg/4bpg player today. The stats however doesn't do justice to his defense, since there is no accurate way to measure a player's true defensive impact.
IMHO, he is KG on steroids.
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B-Eazy Mike Beasley
Re: The truth about Bill Russell.
God, considering how KG acts I dont want to see what KG on roid's Roid Rage episodes would be like.
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