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Old 04-27-2007, 01:33 PM   #31
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Default Re: David Stern - Marcus Camby

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I remember Mihm and Bynum owning him a few times LMAO. Maybe even Kwame, I'm not so sure.
But I do know that Mihm and Bynum had like 20-10 games against Camby a few times.


Chris Mihm did NOT play this year. Need to check you memory card seems like it is malfunctioning.

Plus in the 3 meetings this season against the lakers here it is:

Rebounds 18.6 camby 4.7 Bynum
Steals 1.6 camby .3 Bynum
Blocks 4.3 camby 1.3 Bynum

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Old 04-27-2007, 01:37 PM   #32
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And here is the young Andrew Bynum owning the DPOY

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore?gid=2007040907

19-10-3-6 blocks

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore?gid=2007040907

16-7 in 19 minutes


camby had 22 rebs and 7 blocks in the first game.

Good thing you are not a lawyer. You would never win a case with that shoddy evidence
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Old 04-27-2007, 01:40 PM   #33
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Defense isn't all about stats, until people realize this, everyone is going to continue thinking Camby deserved his award.


If you have to change your offence because of the man in the middle then that is something special.. STOP HATIN:rollingeyes:
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Old 04-27-2007, 01:43 PM   #34
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i would've liked for Duncan to get it i think he deserves at least one in his career

but congrats to Camby
honestly dude, get off duncan's nuts
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Old 04-27-2007, 01:51 PM   #35
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camby had 22 rebs and 7 blocks in the first game.

Good thing you are not a lawyer. You would never win a case with that shoddy evidence

Yes, we know he can get stats.
Can he contain his man? Can he make a team defensively good?

Because last time I checked, players do score a lot on Camby and the Nuggets biggest weakness is defense.

There are 2 big men then have better defensive numbers than Camby. Duncan and Jermaine O Neal. There's probably more but Duncan and Jermaine I'm sure of.

It's a disgrace that Duncan still doesn't have that award. The Spurs are a much better defensive team than the Nuggets, Duncan has good defensive stats and his men score less than Camby's.

What else does he need to do?

He's a better defender than Camby, has been better throughout his career.
Should've won the DPOY award.
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Old 04-27-2007, 02:19 PM   #36
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Camby played like a monester this season, congratz to Marcus Well deserved
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Old 04-27-2007, 02:42 PM   #37
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Bruce was 2nd and Duncan was 3rd.
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Old 04-27-2007, 02:56 PM   #38
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Yes, we know he can get stats.
Can he contain his man? Can he make a team defensively good?

Because last time I checked, players do score a lot on Camby and the Nuggets biggest weakness is defense.

There are 2 big men then have better defensive numbers than Camby. Duncan and Jermaine O Neal. There's probably more but Duncan and Jermaine I'm sure of.

It's a disgrace that Duncan still doesn't have that award. The Spurs are a much better defensive team than the Nuggets, Duncan has good defensive stats and his men score less than Camby's.

What else does he need to do?

He's a better defender than Camby, has been better throughout his career.
Should've won the DPOY award.


The award is for the defensive PLAYER of the year NOT the defensive TEAM of the year.

Def stats

rebounds 10.6 duncan 11.7 camby
blocks 2.4 duncan 3.3 camby
steals .8 duncan 1.2 camby
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Old 04-27-2007, 03:00 PM   #39
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The award is for the defensive PLAYER of the year NOT the defensive TEAM of the year.

Def stats

rebounds 10.6 duncan 11.7 camby
blocks 2.4 duncan 3.3 camby
steals .8 duncan 1.2 camby


Oh God. :rollingeyes:
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Old 04-27-2007, 03:07 PM   #40
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Camby puts up defensive stats. He's not the best defender in the league. There's a huge, huge difference.
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Old 04-27-2007, 06:06 PM   #41
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congrats to camby! well deserved!
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Old 04-27-2007, 06:08 PM   #42
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camby had 22 rebs and 7 blocks in the first game.

Good thing you are not a lawyer. You would never win a case with that shoddy evidence

dont bother trying to reason with these guys. camby won it and he deserved it (as did many other great defenders but they can only choose one winner). no matter who won it, 10000 people would have come here making claims to players so and so...

congrats camby!
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Old 04-27-2007, 09:35 PM   #43
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Default Re: David Stern - Marcus Camby

People make one huge miscalculation here- the Nuggets biggest weakness is not defense. Not even close. It's turnovers.

Defensively, they are not only better than the stats show due to injuries and chemistry, as well as not usually giving 100% effort, but the stats themselves can be misleading. People generally just look at opponents ppg, which is not the most telling stat due to pace playing a huge factor.

But even more than that, the Nuggets really started playing good defense at the end of the year. They beat the Mavs in a defensive struggle late in the year, and have proven that they can play the Spurs at their own game and hang with them in the first two games of this series. That people still consider the Nuggets a bad defensive team is just pure ignorance.

That said, Camby didn't necessarily stand out for dpoy in my mind. Still, neither did anyone else, and I'd say Camby is just as deserving as anyone else that could be mentioned, so people complaining just need to get over it. Duncan did nothing this year to put himself in a position to be an easy choice for dpoy, and it's never going to be a career award.
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