MJ has zero winning seasons without Pippen

[Vino24]

I didn

[FultzNationRISE]

Lol, what?? That cant be right.

Dont people claim MJ is the GOAT...??

I never looked closely at his record without Pip, but theres no way a GOAT could have zero winning seasons without a guy who is supposedly only a

[AirBonner]

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE]Lol, what?? That cant be right.

Dont people claim MJ is the GOAT...??

I never looked closely at his record without Pip, but theres no way a GOAT could have zero winning seasons without a guy who is supposedly only a

[red1]

3ball years ago tried to convince me thats mo williams and pippen are the same level of player.


he literally believes MJ would've won every year if he had mo williams instead of pippen, no problem.



he's actually insane.

[3ball]

Nah 3ball says Pippen was a scrub

2005 LEBRON - won 42 games and 9 seed with all-star center (17/9 and 2.3 blk)
1988 JORDAN - won 50 games and 3 seed with 7 ppg Pippen off the bench


MJ never won more than 40 or made 2nd round without Pip, and Lebron never won more than 42 or made playoffs without Coach Brown or 22/5/5 all-defender Hughes

[SouBeachTalents]

3ball years ago tried to convince me thats mo williams and pippen are the same level of player.


he literally believes MJ would've won every year if he had mo williams instead of pippen, no problem.



he's actually insane.

3ball also legitimately believes Mozgov & Tristan Thompson were better in the 2015 Finals than Pippen was in '98

[3ball]

3ball also legitimately believes Mozgov & Tristan Thompson were better in the 2015 Finals than Pippen was in '98

They were about equal given Pippen's collapse in the last 2 games (7 ppg on 26%), which made his overall contribution (15 on 41%) worse than Tristan and Mosgov's

MJ would've beaten Utah easier with Mosgov's superior offense, health, rebounding and rim protection

[bigkingsfan]

MJ would've beaten Utah easier with Mosgov's superior offense, health, rebounding and rim protection

Ordan wouldn't even made it to the finals with Mosgov

[Smoke117]

3ball years ago tried to convince me thats mo williams and pippen are the same level of player.


he literally believes MJ would've won every year if he had mo williams instead of pippen, no problem.



he's actually insane.

That 3ball is insane and pathetic is basically the one collective thing everyone can agree on. Even the Kobe and LeBron stans.

[Smoke117]

They were about equal given Pippen's collapse in the last 2 games (7 ppg on 26%), which made his overall contribution (15 on 41%) worse than Tristan and Mosgov's

MJ would've beaten Utah easier with Mosgov's superior offense, health, rebounding and rim protection

lol See how deranged he is. It's a "collapse". There is no mention of the fact that his back was fukked up. If you didn't know better you'd just think Pippen just played bad and that's basically what he wants you to believe. They would have got those first 3 wins with Mozgov instead of Pippen, huh? To be this obsessed about a player that you have to say such nonsense is just insane.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

lol See how deranged he is. It's a "collapse". There is no mention of the fact that his back was fukked up. If you didn't know better you'd just think Pippen played bad and that's basically what he wants you to believe. They would have got those first 3 wins with Mozgov instead of Pippen, huh? To be this obsessed about a player that you have to say such nonsense is just insane.

Nah.

He's a trolling gimp.

Got exposed way back too. I don't doubt that he's a "Jordan fan", but that's only because of Youtube. Trust me when I tell you he's a bonafide troll...and doesn't believe half the shit he spews. Insane? Yeah maybe. Still a troll thru and thru.

[3ball]

he literally believes MJ would've won every year if he had mo williams instead of pippen, no problem.

Lebron was expected to win in 09' just like Giannis in 19'; but both failed:


MO[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] WILLIAMS[COLOR="White"]....[/COlor]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 18/3/5.. 58.8 ts.. 115 ortg.. 17.2 PER.. 0.165 ws.. 2.3 bpm.. 3.1 vorp
KHRIS MIDDLETON:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 18/5/3.. 55.5 ts.. 106 ortg.. 16.3 PER.. 0.122 ws.. 0.7 bpm.. 1.6 vorp[

3ball years ago tried to convince me thats mo williams and pippen are the same level of player.

I said 09' Mo was much better than 89' Pippen, which is true:


09' Mo Will RS:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 18/3/4.. 58.8 ts.. 115 ORtg.. 17.1 PER.. 0.165 ws/48.. 2.3 bpm.. 3.1 vorp
89' Pippen RS:[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 14/6/4.. 52.4 ts.. 102 ORtg.. 14.9 PER.. 0.080 ws/48.. 1.4 bpm.. 2.1 vorp

09' Mo Will ECF:[COLOR="White"].ni[/COLOR] 18/3/4.. 50.5 ts.. 102 ORtg.. lost to #4 SRS (2 all-stars)
89' Pippen 1st Rd:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 15/9/4.. 51.0 ts.. 102 ORtg.. beat [COLOR="White"]'o[/COLOR] #1 SRS (3 all-stars*)

* plus 20/5/5 Ron Harper


Lebron had the[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] #1 SRS team in 2009, but lost to the #4 SRS team

Jordan had the #10 SRS team in 1989, but beat the #1 SRS team..

Heck, MJ pulled a bigger upset than Dwight...


The reality is that pre-2011 Lebron had 4 teammates that were superior to 89' Pippen:

- all-star Mo
- 2-time all-star Jamison
- steals leader and 22/5/5 first-team defender - 05' Hughes
- 2-time all-star Zydrunas

Yet MJ won 6 rings and Lebron lost to Dwight in 09', faked an elbow injury during a 2010 meltdown, and then started team-hopping in 11'.

Heck, Lebron had the reigning East all-star center in 06' and 22/5/5 all-defender Hughes - one must assume that MJ would've beaten 89' Detroit with these guys rather than 89' Pip

Ultimately, there's this perception that pre-2011 Lebron was carrying lottery casts to high seeds and the Finals, while MJ was losing with Pip... But in reality, MJ's 85-89' casts are worse than anything Lebron ever had... That's why MJ had to carry his team to a close series with the 89' champs, while Lebron shoots 35% but still takes the champs 7 in 08'

[egokiller]

MJ made Pippen, so it's a wash.

[72-10]

11 game improvement

[305Baller]

wow so mj is kyrie and pippen is lebron? wow.

u r a genius