Will LeBron be remembered as a bigger choker than Wilt if he loses his next Finals?

[TheMan]

If the Cavs lose their next Finals, he will have lost with a stacked team (again) in a weak conference were he practically gets a free ride to the Finals, only to come up short time and again.

He will match Wilt's 2/7 Finals record.

Will he be remembered as a great RS player but a Finals choker like the Big Dipper? Always being surrounded with talent but under performing in the biggest stage? LBJ career Finals scoring numbers are inferior to his career RS stats so a case can be made that he doesn't up his game. Will he crack the GOAT top 10 or nah?

Discuss

[Prometheus]

LeBron will make it to the Finals every year for the next twenty years, and lose every single one.

He will finish his (extremely long) career 2 for 26. He will be remembered, for all eternity, as the biggest choker to ever play NBA basketball, any professional sport, or really any sort of competition whatsoever.

It's... fate.

[TheMan]

LeBron will make it to the Finals every year for the next twenty years, and lose every single one.

He will finish his (extremely long) career 2 for 26. He will be remembered, for all eternity, as the biggest choker to ever play NBA basketball, any professional sport, or really any sort of competition whatsoever.

It's... fate.

It's not hating calling him a choker. To be considered an all time great, you've got to raise your game in the biggest stage and his Finals averages are inferior to his RS averages so he's under performed so far. Even these last Finals were he shot a ton, his FG% was atrocious. If he even shoots at a 42% clip, Cavs win

[SouBeachTalents]

It's not hating calling him a choker. To be considered an all time great, you've got to raise your game in the biggest stage and his Finals averages are inferior to his RS averages so he's under performed so far. Even these last Finals were he shot a ton, his FG% was atrocious. If he even shoots at a 42% clip, Cavs win

That's actually not true, only his shooting % drops 2-3 points, the rest of his numbers are basically the same as they are in the regular season/postseason. Wilt had a significantly bigger drop off in Finals ppg, while Kobe and arguably Bird have worse Finals numbers than LeBron

[Rose'sACL]

Bulls fans are so terrified of lebron.
Anyways, your thread is made on the basis of lebron's finals number which are better than birds and kobe's finals numbers.

[Marchesk]

Wilt had a significantly bigger drop off in Finals ppg, while Kobe and arguably Bird have worse Finals numbers than LeBron

Some of that has to do with when Wilt made the finals. His role was different on the 76ers and Lakers than it was as the league's top scorer with the Warriors.

[Smoke117]

You MJ stans are easily the most pathetic on the board. You are a fan of the player who everyone pretty much considers the GOAT, but are so insecure you have to make threads like this... It's really, really sad, bro.

[TheMan]

You MJ stans are easily the most pathetic on the board. You are a fan of the player who everyone pretty much considers the GOAT, but are so insecure you have to make threads like this... It's really, really sad, bro.

Just thought I'd answer mehyaM24 shit threads with a thread asking a legit question

This has nothing to do with MJ, no one in their right mind puts LeBron on MJ's level

[ArbitraryWater]

MJ stans... Chicago people... ISH

LeBron will make it to the Finals every year for the next twenty years, and lose every single one.

He will finish his (extremely long) career 2 for 26. He will be remembered, for all eternity, as the biggest choker to ever play NBA basketball, any professional sport, or really any sort of competition whatsoever.

It's... fate.

yet.... you were on here predicting that the Cavs would win the title, then afterwards as someone bumped the thread said they would have at full power, and now, you seemingly push something that was outside of LeBron's doing on him.... again, ISH is brilliant ain't it

[TheMan]

MJ stans... Chicago people... ISH



yet.... you were on here predicting that the Cavs would win the title, then afterwards as someone bumped the thread said they would have at full power, and now, you seemingly push something that was outside of LeBron's doing on him.... again, ISH is brilliant ain't it

Hey, I also thought the Cavs would win, but then LeBron played like a retarded version of Allen Iverson

[mehyaM24]

LOL at this "retaliation" thread. wilt and lebron, at similar ages, already had more playoff success than jordan.

1-9 is forever attached to jordan's legacy - a legacy that was heavily built by his supporting cast, hence my thread.

[ArbitraryWater]

Hey, I also thought the Cavs would win, but then LeBron played like a retarded version of Allen Iverson

sure, that must have been it.... except, he shot a higher percentage than AI, more points, and WAY more assists AND rebounds...

LeBron made the best out of the little he was handed. If you or anyone can't see that, they're dumb, and rely on trashy shit like 'LeBron ball doe'..

LeBron James was responsible for 70 of 91 Cavaliers points in Game 5 (40 scored, 30 assisted).
LeBron scored or assisted on 16 of the Cavs 17 buckets in the first half.

The main rotation consisted of:
Dellavedova, worst backup PG in the NBA
Shumpert, trash offensively, shooting 25%, takes bad fouls
Jr Smith, the most inconsistent, streaky and cold player in the NBA when he is, shooting 25%
Thompson, an absolutely inept offensively player, offensive rebound machie
Mozgov, worst hands in the NBA, solid rebounder, can give you 15 relatively efficient points
James Jones and Mike Miller are just bodies, the worst defenders in the NBA, should be in retirement

Difference in depth:
Cavs had to play James Jones nearly 20 mins a night
GSW could afford to sit Bogut, D Lee & Speights the final 3 games

Cavaliers without LeBron James on the court in the 2015 Finals:

JR Smith 0/9 FG
Delly 0/7 FG
J. Jones 0/3 FG
Shumpert 0/2 FG

Total 0/21 FG


LeBron's best finals performance ever, one of the GOATs.

[TheMan]

LOL at this "retaliation" thread. wilt and lebron, at similar ages, already had more playoff success than jordan.

1-9 is forever attached to jordan's legacy - a legacy that was heavily built by his supporting cast, hence my thread.

[mehyaM24]

at age 23, lebron already took his team to the finals. i'm not much of a wilt fan, but he at least got past the first round.

jordan was 1-9 in the playoffs.

[ArbitraryWater]

sure, that must have been it.... except, he shot a higher percentage than AI, more points, and WAY more assists AND rebounds...

LeBron made the best out of the little he was handed. If you or anyone can't see that, they're dumb, and rely on trashy shit like 'LeBron ball doe'..

LeBron James was responsible for 70 of 91 Cavaliers points in Game 5 (40 scored, 30 assisted).
LeBron scored or assisted on 16 of the Cavs 17 buckets in the first half.

The main rotation consisted of:
Dellavedova, worst backup PG in the NBA
Shumpert, trash offensively, shooting 25%, takes bad fouls
Jr Smith, the most inconsistent, streaky and cold player in the NBA when he is, shooting 25%
Thompson, an absolutely inept offensively player, offensive rebound machie
Mozgov, worst hands in the NBA, solid rebounder, can give you 15 relatively efficient points
James Jones and Mike Miller are just bodies, the worst defenders in the NBA, should be in retirement

Difference in depth:
Cavs had to play James Jones nearly 20 mins a night
GSW could afford to sit Bogut, D Lee & Speights the final 3 games

Cavaliers without LeBron James on the court in the 2015 Finals:

JR Smith 0/9 FG
Delly 0/7 FG
J. Jones 0/3 FG
Shumpert 0/2 FG

Total 0/21 FG


LeBron's best finals performance ever, one of the GOATs.

Guess this was to be avoided... MJ stans are utter pests