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Re: Whose had the best peak post 2000?
Originally Posted by T_L_P
But when you say Pau Gasol/Serge Ibaka could replace Duncan in his prime, you are basically saying the PER metric you love is useless.
At least stay consistent.
If you could direct me to the quote so I could get a clearer idea on what I was saying, that would be much appreciated
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Re: Whose had the best peak post 2000?
I think shaq also not sure which year, I'd say duncan has second highest peek since 2000
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National High School Star
Re: Whose had the best peak post 2000?
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The Beast In Me
Re: Whose had the best peak post 2000?
Originally Posted by dubeta
If you could direct me to the quote so I could get a clearer idea on what I was saying, that would be much appreciated
"the same 5 at least
maybe even 6"
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=350160
Like I said, you can't say it's LeBron because of PER and call Duncan worse than Ibaka, because his "PER" is better than Ibaka's.
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Re: Whose had the best peak post 2000?
Originally Posted by T_L_P
Oh yea i said it, that doesnt mean they necessarily win in 2003 or 2002
2005, 2007, 2011, 2012, 2014 are all possible to win
they might not put up duncan numbers at 2003, but are you telling me 2007 duncan was significantly better? Gasol is no scrub, he led the 2010 lakers in win shares for the championship. Ibaka causes problems on both ends of the court
2005 they can still pull through, manu, tony pau combo or a manu, tony, ibaka combo could be deadly
2007 competition was weak, they could easily win with tony balling the way he did that year, ibaka and gasol dont necessarily have to replacate duncans numbers to ensure victory
and from 2010 onwards Pop turned the spurs to a 8 man deep team. No superstar, everyone is basically equal, so 3 more in those next 5 finals isnt a stretch, with tony, manu, then eventually kawhi, boris diaw, patty mills etc
So the majority of the rings might have been won later on instead of in the 1999's - to 2003's etc
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The Beast In Me
Re: Whose had the best peak post 2000?
Originally Posted by dubeta
Oh yea i said it, that doesnt mean they necessarily win in 2003 or 2002
2005, 2007, 2011, 2012, 2014 are all possible to win
they might not put up duncan numbers at 2003, but are you telling me 2007 duncan was significantly better? Gasol is no scrub, he led the 2010 lakers in win shares for the championship. Ibaka causes problems on both ends of the court
2005 they can still pull through, manu, tony pau combo or a manu, tony, ibaka combo could be deadly
2007 competition was weak, they could easily win with tony balling the way he did that year, ibaka and gasol dont necessarily have to replacate duncans numbers to ensure victory
and from 2010 onwards Pop turned the spurs to a 8 man deep team. No superstar, everyone is basically equal, so 3 more in those next 5 finals isnt a stretch, with tony, manu, then eventually kawhi, boris diaw, patty mills etc
So the majority of the rings might have been won later on instead of in the 1999's - to 2003's etc
Actually, I don't think saying peak Gasol could fill 07 Duncan's shoes is farfetched in the slightest. It's quite accurate. Not 05 though. Detroit could have left Gasol with single coverage and still eaten him, meaning all those open looks the three point shooters would have got are gone. And Gasol and Nazr guarding the paint would have been a nightmare.
But Ibaka? The dude is a third option on a team that hasn't won anything. Now he's replacing the top dog on a title team and you expect them to win? That is absurd. I can't believe you watched any version of prime Duncan if you believe Ibaka brings anything close to his impact.
Any version of Ibaka loses in the second round with the 98-08 Spurs.
Last edited by T_L_P; 08-14-2014 at 04:05 AM.
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Re: Whose had the best peak post 2000?
Originally Posted by T_L_P
Actually, I don't think saying peak Gasol could fill 07 Duncan's shoes is farfetched in the slightest. It's quite accurate. Not 05 though. Detroit could have left Gasol with single coverage and still eaten him, meaning all those open looks the three point shooters would have got are gone. And Gasol and Nazr guarding the paint would have been a nightmare.
But Ibaka? The dude is a third option on a team that hasn't won anything. Now he's replacing the top dog on a title team and you expect them to win? That is absurd. I can't believe you watched any version of prime Duncan if you believe Ibaka brings anything close to his impact.
Any version of Ibaka loses in the second round with the 98-08 Spurs.
Maybe Ibaka might have been a stretch, but now that thats cleared up..
you admit LeBron had the best peak since MJ?
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Re: Whose had the best peak post 2000?
Shaq 01
Duncan 03
Kobe 06
KG 04
LeBron 12
Wade 09.
In that order
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A Humble Lebron Fan
Re: Whose had the best peak post 2000?
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Re: Whose had the best peak post 2000?
Originally Posted by SexSymbol
Shaq 01
Duncan 03
Kobe 06
KG 04
LeBron 12
Wade 09.
In that order
Anyways, it's Shaq ('01). LeBron is a pretty close #2.
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Coach
Re: Whose had the best peak post 2000?
1) LeBron 2009 - Current
2) Shaq 2001 - 2006
3) Kobe 2006 - 2010
4) Duncan 2001 - Current
5) Wade 2005 - 2012
HM:
Dirk 2001 - 2011
KG 2001 - 2009
McGrady 2001 - 2008
Paul 2008 - Current
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Re: Whose had the best peak post 2000?
after lurking for so long i must say Kobe , Kobe by far
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Re: Whose had the best peak post 2000?
1. James '09
2. O'Neal '01
3. Duncan '03
4. Paul '08
5. Wade '06
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Very good NBA starter
Re: Whose had the best peak post 2000?
Shaq had the best peak i've ever seen.
I never saw 90-93 MJ though.
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Re: Whose had the best peak post 2000?
Give me 03 Duncan over any player ever.
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