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    Quote Originally Posted by T_L_P
    But when you say Pau Gasol/Serge Ibaka could replace Duncan in his prime, you are basically saying the PER metric you love is useless.

    At least stay consistent.
    If you could direct me to the quote so I could get a clearer idea on what I was saying, that would be much appreciated

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    Default Re: Whose had the best peak post 2000?

    I think shaq also not sure which year, I'd say duncan has second highest peek since 2000

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    Default Re: Whose had the best peak post 2000?

    Shaq, then Lebron

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubeta
    If you could direct me to the quote so I could get a clearer idea on what I was saying, that would be much appreciated
    "the same 5 at least

    maybe even 6"

    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=350160

    Like I said, you can't say it's LeBron because of PER and call Duncan worse than Ibaka, because his "PER" is better than Ibaka's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T_L_P
    "the same 5 at least

    maybe even 6"

    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=350160

    Like I said, you can't say it's LeBron because of PER and call Duncan worse than Ibaka, because his "PER" is better than Ibaka's.
    Oh yea i said it, that doesnt mean they necessarily win in 2003 or 2002

    2005, 2007, 2011, 2012, 2014 are all possible to win

    they might not put up duncan numbers at 2003, but are you telling me 2007 duncan was significantly better? Gasol is no scrub, he led the 2010 lakers in win shares for the championship. Ibaka causes problems on both ends of the court

    2005 they can still pull through, manu, tony pau combo or a manu, tony, ibaka combo could be deadly

    2007 competition was weak, they could easily win with tony balling the way he did that year, ibaka and gasol dont necessarily have to replacate duncans numbers to ensure victory

    and from 2010 onwards Pop turned the spurs to a 8 man deep team. No superstar, everyone is basically equal, so 3 more in those next 5 finals isnt a stretch, with tony, manu, then eventually kawhi, boris diaw, patty mills etc

    So the majority of the rings might have been won later on instead of in the 1999's - to 2003's etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubeta
    Oh yea i said it, that doesnt mean they necessarily win in 2003 or 2002

    2005, 2007, 2011, 2012, 2014 are all possible to win

    they might not put up duncan numbers at 2003, but are you telling me 2007 duncan was significantly better? Gasol is no scrub, he led the 2010 lakers in win shares for the championship. Ibaka causes problems on both ends of the court

    2005 they can still pull through, manu, tony pau combo or a manu, tony, ibaka combo could be deadly

    2007 competition was weak, they could easily win with tony balling the way he did that year, ibaka and gasol dont necessarily have to replacate duncans numbers to ensure victory

    and from 2010 onwards Pop turned the spurs to a 8 man deep team. No superstar, everyone is basically equal, so 3 more in those next 5 finals isnt a stretch, with tony, manu, then eventually kawhi, boris diaw, patty mills etc

    So the majority of the rings might have been won later on instead of in the 1999's - to 2003's etc
    Actually, I don't think saying peak Gasol could fill 07 Duncan's shoes is farfetched in the slightest. It's quite accurate. Not 05 though. Detroit could have left Gasol with single coverage and still eaten him, meaning all those open looks the three point shooters would have got are gone. And Gasol and Nazr guarding the paint would have been a nightmare.

    But Ibaka? The dude is a third option on a team that hasn't won anything. Now he's replacing the top dog on a title team and you expect them to win? That is absurd. I can't believe you watched any version of prime Duncan if you believe Ibaka brings anything close to his impact.

    Any version of Ibaka loses in the second round with the 98-08 Spurs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T_L_P
    Actually, I don't think saying peak Gasol could fill 07 Duncan's shoes is farfetched in the slightest. It's quite accurate. Not 05 though. Detroit could have left Gasol with single coverage and still eaten him, meaning all those open looks the three point shooters would have got are gone. And Gasol and Nazr guarding the paint would have been a nightmare.

    But Ibaka? The dude is a third option on a team that hasn't won anything. Now he's replacing the top dog on a title team and you expect them to win? That is absurd. I can't believe you watched any version of prime Duncan if you believe Ibaka brings anything close to his impact.

    Any version of Ibaka loses in the second round with the 98-08 Spurs.
    Maybe Ibaka might have been a stretch, but now that thats cleared up..

    you admit LeBron had the best peak since MJ?

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    Default Re: Whose had the best peak post 2000?

    Shaq 01
    Duncan 03
    Kobe 06
    KG 04
    LeBron 12
    Wade 09.
    In that order

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    Lebron James.

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    Default Re: Whose had the best peak post 2000?

    Quote Originally Posted by SexSymbol
    Shaq 01
    Duncan 03
    Kobe 06
    KG 04
    LeBron 12
    Wade 09.
    In that order


    Anyways, it's Shaq ('01). LeBron is a pretty close #2.

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    1) LeBron 2009 - Current
    2) Shaq 2001 - 2006
    3) Kobe 2006 - 2010
    4) Duncan 2001 - Current
    5) Wade 2005 - 2012

    HM:
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    KG 2001 - 2009
    McGrady 2001 - 2008
    Paul 2008 - Current

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    after lurking for so long i must say Kobe , Kobe by far

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    Default Re: Whose had the best peak post 2000?

    1. James '09
    2. O'Neal '01
    3. Duncan '03
    4. Paul '08
    5. Wade '06

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    Default Re: Whose had the best peak post 2000?

    Shaq had the best peak i've ever seen.

    I never saw 90-93 MJ though.

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    Default Re: Whose had the best peak post 2000?

    Give me 03 Duncan over any player ever.

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