Michael Jordan's career average without his retirement comeback seasons

[Derivative]

Takes out MJ's retirement comeback season in 1995, 2001 and 2002, this is his career average.

31.6 PPG, 6.3 RPG, 5.4 APG, 2.5 SPG, 0.9 BPG

50.7 %FG, 32.9 %3FG, 83.8 %FT


I'm sorry but this is fucking insane, too bad MJ was an idiot and had to play around with retirements and comebacks, really messed up his career average

[Money 23]

It's also insane considering many consider '96 to be the last true year os his prime @ 33 years old.

If he didn't play baseball, and stuck around for an attempt at a 4th ring in 1994. '94 being one of the last years of his peak. It's a safe assumption to guess he would've put up another 32 / 6 / 6 and 2 - 3 steals per game akin to 1993.

Then in '95 a slight regression. Probably 30 / 5 / 5, similar to his '96 numbers. And if he retired in '98 on that story book ending, things would've been ideal.

[Derivative]

this is why MJ shouldn't make a comeback anymore

[diamenz]

mj > god

[Dragonyeuw]

Dont forget his second season when he broke his foot and missed most of the year, that messed up his career average too because no doubt he'd have averaged 30+ that year.

[DMV2]

Dont forget his second season when he broke his foot and missed most of the year, that messed up his career average too because no doubt he'd have averaged 30+ that year.

This.

OP should calculate his career stat from 1984-1998 but exclude the 1986, 1995 seasons. 1994 season already has no data.

[Clifton]

I'm sorry but this is ****ing insane,

Yes, it is.

I don't mean to bring Kobe into this, but it's funny to think that Kobe's only had one season scoring more than Jordan's CAREER AVERAGE before 40. Against an era anyone would tell you is tougher. Jordan had a physical dominance that just wasn't fair. There were the fadeaways and pullups he would take, like Kobe; but there would also be those times he would sneak into the lane and it was a guaranteed bucket, like Lebron or Shaq. Kobe doesn't have that physical advantage over people and that's why he can't be Jordan, good as he is, even if his shot selection were better.

[KrizMiz]

Kobe without the games under 80 points....

career stats : 81 ppg !!!!!! incredible

[Real Men Wear Green]

If you cut out the post-prime seasons every player has better stats.

[Psileas]

If you cut out the post-prime seasons every player has better stats.

Pretty much this. Also, since Kobe was mentioned, pre-prime seasons should also be omitted - in other words, non-prime seasons in general.

[Psileas]

Yes, it is.

I don't mean to bring Kobe into this, but it's funny to think that Kobe's only had one season scoring more than Jordan's CAREER AVERAGE before 40.

Kobe had 2 such seasons (2006, 2007) and very close to 3 (2003). Plus, it makes little sense to mention someone's career average "before 40" if he's missed multiple non-prime years that would have brought his averages down - I'm talking in general here, not Kobe specifically.

[tmacattack33]

Dont forget his second season when he broke his foot and missed most of the year, that messed up his career average too because no doubt he'd have averaged 30+ that year.

Injuries happen to everyone.

That's ridiculous.


Now, taking away his Jordan years makes sense. That was when he was 40 and a completely different player. And normally, players don't come back at age 40.

But taking away stats because he was injured is ridiculous since almost every player who played for 10 + years has been similarly injured at some point.

[gengiskhan]

Kobe had 2 such seasons (2006, 2007) and very close to 3 (2003). Plus, it makes little sense to mention someone's career average "before 40" if he's missed multiple non-prime years that would have brought his averages down - I'm talking in general here, not Kobe specifically.

Allen Iverson had 3 such seasons too.

McGrady had 2 such seasons too.

MJ has played 15 yrs with ave of 30.12 ppg with 50%FG. Thats GOAT stat.

MJ's lowest season ave is 20 ppg at age 40. Thats GOAT stat too.

MJ missed 3 regular seasons b4 age 35. 1986, 1994 & 1995 (only played 17 games).

All those 3 seasons woul've yielded MJ ave of 31-32 ppgs.

MJ missed 2.5 reg seasons btw ages 35-40. 1999 (50 games season), 2000, 2001.

If MJ age 27 ppgs, 26 ppg, 25 ppg for 1999, 2000, 2001 reg seasons respective b4 23 ppg of 2002 & 20 ppg of 2003 season.

MJ's ave for 20 yrs in NBA will be 30.50 - 31.00 ppg which is still >>> 30.12 ppg off 15 seasons.

[Glide2keva]

Allen Iverson had 3 such seasons too.

McGrady had 2 such seasons too.

MJ has played 15 yrs with ave of 30.12 ppg with 50%FG. Thats GOAT stat.

MJ's lowest season ave is 20 ppg at age 40. Thats GOAT stat too.

MJ missed 3 regular seasons b4 age 35. 1986, 1994 & 1995 (only played 17 games).

All those 3 seasons woul've yielded MJ ave of 31-32 ppgs.

MJ missed 2.5 reg seasons btw ages 35-40. 1999 (50 games season), 2000, 2001.

If MJ age 27 ppgs, 26 ppg, 25 ppg for 1999, 2000, 2001 reg seasons respective b4 23 ppg of 2002 & 20 ppg of 2003 season.

MJ's ave for 20 yrs in NBA will be 30.50 - 31.00 ppg which is still >>> 30.12 ppg off 15 seasons.

In other words, he was a living cheat code.

[Segatti]

Kobe without the games under 80 points....

career stats : 81 ppg !!!!!! incredible