Why couldn't Lebron win 70 games and have several years as the dominant favorite?

[SouBeachTalents]

Why would he need to make less Finals?

just win the damn championship!!!

Where did "less Finals" come from??.. Is this some Jedi mind trick where you say the opposite of reality and people go for it?.. .. seems like it

Again, just win the championship..... which would be a lot easier if he achieved consistently dominant favorites like curry and MJ did. Or Duncan, Kobe and others

That idiot's argument is that since he's 3/9, instead of 3/3 or 3/5, that should keep him out of the top 10. So, if rangz are the end all, no way should Hakeem or Wilt be ranked ahead of LeBron, or even Bird for that matter

[bullettooth]

That idiot's argument is that since he's 3/9, instead of 3/3 or 3/5, that should keep him out of the top 10. So, if rangz are the end all, no way should Hakeem or Wilt be ranked ahead of LeBron, or even Bird for that matter

I got Bird ahead of LeBron.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

He should have with Wade and Bosh back in 2011.

LeBron claiming they would 5-peat told you great they could've been

That idiot's argument is that since he's 3/9, instead of 3/3 or 3/5, that should keep him out of the top 10. So, if rangz are the end all, no way should Hakeem or Wilt be ranked ahead of LeBron, or even Bird for that matter

The poster literally never said that.

LeBron fans just default into "so not making the finals is better????!!!" when in reality, 3/9 just means dude lost more than he won. Losing being the operative word here.

[bullettooth]

So he needed to make less Finals to be considered top 10? What a fcking idiot

Hold on, so FAILURE is now a sign of being GOAT? Why don't you have Jerry West as the GOAT?

[Hey Yo]

I got Bird ahead of LeBron.

You also had Bulls drafting Pippen.

[SouBeachTalents]

He should have with Wade and Bosh back in 2011.

LeBron claiming they would 5-peat told you great they could've been



The poster literally never said that.

LeBron fans just default into "so not making the finals is better????!!!" when in reality, 3/9 just means dude lost more than he won. Losing being the operative word here.

It's really 3/15, but 3/9 absolutely does mean they're criticizing making the Finals and losing to teams like the Warriors instead of losing to garbage like the Pacers, Hawks or Raptors

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

It's really 3/15, but 3/9 absolutely does mean they're criticizing making the Finals and losing to teams like the Warriors instead of losing to garbage like the Pacers, Hawks or Raptors

Not if you think his teams should've won in the finals.

I don't care enough to break that down though. I'm sure 3ball or somebody else will engage you there.

[3ball]

That idiot's argument is that [COLOR="DarkRed"]since he's 3/9, instead of 3/3 or 3/5[/COLOR], that should keep him out of the top 10. So, if rangz are the end all, no way should Hakeem or Wilt be ranked ahead of LeBron, or even Bird for that matter

If he's viewed as underachieving, then his Finals losses hurt him

And we're learning that an underachieving Finals record isn't just the overt chokes like 2011..

it's more subtle too.. The yearly circumstance of not achieving dominant favorites like curry/mj/duncan hurt a player's Finals chances and record more than the overt chokes - obviously, chokes happen a lot less often than yearly underdog status
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[SouBeachTalents]

Not if you think his teams should've won in the finals.

I don't care enough to break that down though. I'm sure 3ball or somebody else will engage you there.

Outside of 2011 which is obvious, any Finals he lost you think he should've won?

[superduper]

Outside of 2011 which is obvious, any Finals he lost you think he should've won?

2014, 2015, 2017, 2018.

[3ball]

Outside of 2011 which is obvious, any Finals he lost you think he should've won?

Ur ignoring the point

You think he shouldn't have won because his team was perceived as an underdog

But that's the whole point - why is lebron/wade and lebron/kyrie underdogs to anyone?

Again, the yearly circumstance of not achieving dominant favorites like curry/mj/duncan hurt a player's Finals chances and record more than the overt chokes like 2011 - obviously, chokes happen a lot less often than yearly underdog status
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[And1AllDay]

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[And1AllDay]

2014, 2015, 2017, 2018.

Look up Miami's stats for 2014 Finals
Look up Miamis competition for 2014 Finals

The rest we already know your dumb to say

Next

[Bigsmoke]

2018.

U are on drugs sir

[egokiller]

Only in today's mickey mouse league does a player get props for mostly losing... i.e. beating warriors 1 in 4 times, or the spurs 1 in 3, including 3 record blowout defeats and 2 sweeps

So lebron gets destroyed, except a couple one-off flukes, which happen to everyone.. ur praising lebron for losing

any great player will beat a team 1 in 4 times.. it's not impressive and instead the biggest knock on his resume.. again, you don't get props for losing
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What other choice do lefail stans have other that praising him for losing/showing up? The poor bastard is basically 1/9 without the big shots from Kyrie and Wade. When you've lost that much, the only thing you can do as someone who never watched MJ live is pretend that "showing up is winning". At that point, it's all you have. It's called compensating. It's like the guy that has to sport 10s while everyone else on his block is rolling on 20s. He couldn't afford the 20s (witnessing GOAT MJ), but he damn sure kept his 10s (LeBron) clean.

https://youtu.be/ZDCXUJk3rxw?t=16

Why couldn't he win 70 games and have several years as the dominant favorite? Because his style of basketball isn't conducive to team winning basketball. It's not sustainable enough for it to happen.