"let others get theres where and when they want" or "tell others where and when"

[kennethgriffin]

the question is. which style truly makes others better



Kobes style "hey.. i'l get mine. you have a system in place that i'l be a part of and help be a decoy in order to keep defenders honest. you do whats best for you. post up. rotate via the triangle offense. and the 70 points you guys score might have 5 assists with my name on it from not being able to get my own shot due to a double team or running a pick and role to free up someone else"


vs

lebrons style "hey... you.. stop doing what made you successful your entire career. forget that stuff. disregard anything you once knew. totally learn how to play the game again and fit my agenda. i want 10 assists today. so you have to get out of the post. stand at the 3 point line. you might also get in my way when i'm attacking the rim. now wait for me to dribble around a pick and maybe i'l kick it if they collapse on me. or i'm going in for the fg% protected smart layup attempt and if i miss i expect a foul call. everyone else just sit there and watch. i know we dont have an actual system. so just get open and i'l find you. make sure not to pass since we dont have hockey assists. i want you to jack it up right after you catch the ball."







go with the flow vs force feed predetermined


help others succeed at their own strengths ... vs ....hold the ball for 20 seconds of the shotclock looking for a way to get in the box score with a pass

another 3 pointer? comin right up boss

i won this three point shootout for my master. he expects me to ray allen his ass to another ring

[nba_55]

I knew this thread would be about Lebron. And you didn't add anything new, you repeated what has been said more than 100 times on this forum.

[LoneyROY7]

Curry's style > both.

[Mr. Jabbar]

one basically worked for his stuff while the other was spoon-fed since day 1

earned vs given

[Bankaii]

Lebron > Kobe in just about all facets of basketball.

[kennethgriffin]

Curry's style > both.

currys style is actually somewhat like kobe in the triangle offense

rotations and passing is what makes a great offense. curry breaks the offense sometimes to get his own. but gets back into it when others are scoring... its not a ball dominant stagnant playmaker looking for 10-15 assists

[nba_55]

currys style is actually somewhat like kobe in the triangle offense

rotations and passing is what makes a great offense. not a ball dominant stagnant playmaker looking for 10-15 assists

You should have copy-pasted one of 3ball's posts, you wouldn't have wasted time writing all the OP.

[kennethgriffin]

Lebron > Kobe in just about all facets of basketball.

are jumpshots
fall aways
hook shots
free throws
contested shots
footwork
postups
fundimentals
off hand shooting
clutch play
on ball defense
killer instinct
work ethic
loyalty
and winning

facets of basketball?

[FKAri]

Wait...wait...hold up. You're arguing that Kobe-ball is a paragon of smooth, "equal opportunity", "flowing" offense?

The only difference between Kobe-ball and Bron-ball is:

Lebron passes more
Kobe shoots more

[kennethgriffin]

Wait...wait...hold up. You're arguing that Kobe-ball is a paragon of smooth offense?

The only difference between Kobe-ball and Bron-ball is:

Lebron passes more
Kobe shoots more

the lakers offense was a well oiled machine


kobe only broke it when he went 1 on 1 to score

lebron on the other hand refuses to let his teammates have a system. he wants it to be all 1 on 1 all the time

lebron has a myth about him that hes a team player. but he plays more 1 on 1 than kobe ever did

only difference is lebron plays 1 on 1 to get assists just as much as he does to try and score


theres no ball movement. just a dribble and kick out.


thats not basketball. and lebron is not a great team player



when other guys on LA scored allot of the time it was with kobe contributing in the flow of the offense. there were quarters in which he never even took a whot. but at the same time he didnt try and force assists. the ball swung arounda and players cut and screaned. 3-4 passes before each shot.

gasol got to work in the post... he got a ton of assists off kobes initial draw of the defense. and kobe never got mad that gasol was ruining a possible assist for him

lebron probly gets mad when the guy he passes to sets up someone else

[tpols]

Wait...wait...hold up. You're arguing that Kobe-ball is a paragon of smooth, "equal opportunity", "flowing" offense?

The only difference between Kobe-ball and Bron-ball is:

Lebron passes more
Kobe shoots more

False.

There are statistics out there proving Lebron holds/dribbles the ball far more than any non pointguard.

[kennethgriffin]

kobe ball is for only maybe 30% of the game

lebron ball is for over 50% of the game

and when lebrons out. his team collapses because they have to basically run lebron ball through jr smith or some other f*ck up

[Jameerthefear]

So what you're telling me is that Kobe played with the GOAT coach and Lebron has played with garbage coaches? I agree.

[Bankaii]

are
jumpshots- Kobe
fall aways- Kobe
hook shots- wash
free throws- Kobe
contested shots- dumb
footwork- Kobe
postups- wash
fundamentals*- wash
off hand shooting-dumb
clutch play-Lebron
on ball defense- wash (Lebron is more consistent though)
killer instinct- dumb
work ethic- dumb
loyalty- dumb
and winning- wash

facets of basketball?

As are
Scoring- Lebron
Help defense- Lebron
Passing- Lebron
Playmaking- Lebron
3s- Lebron
Rebounding- Lebron
Finishing- Lebron
Efficiency-Lebron
IQ- Lebron

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

False.

There are statistics out there proving Lebron holds/dribbles the ball far more than any non pointguard.

I don't think what dude saying is false, Kobe does shoot more, however you're right on the money with regards to LeBron. He monopolizes possessions like no other. Guy can't shoot worth a lick and yet handles the basketball more than MOST guards.