How does Lebron get props for this?

[3ball]

Thread Cliffs:

Lebron's 2015 playoff averages shown below are beneath MJ and far worse than MJ's worst playoff run:

41.7% FG
48.7% TS
105 ORtg
0.173 WS/48
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[SouBeachTalents]

Btw, remember, the OP stats are for Lebron's entire playoff run - most top 20 all-time players never had stats as bad as Lebron's 2015 playoff averages:

41.7% FG
48.7% TS
105 ORtg
0.173 WS/48
.

Bird, Kobe, Baylor, Dirk, and Isiah all had playoff runs similar to that

[3ball]

Bird, Kobe, Baylor, Dirk, and Isiah all had playoff runs similar to that

Bird and Kobe had a playoff run where all four categories were as bad as Lebron's 2015 playoffs??

41.7% FG
48.7% TS
105 ORtg
0.173 WS/48

I'd be surprised if Elgin, Dirk, or Isiah did as well.

[SouBeachTalents]

Bird and Kobe had a playoff run where all four categories were as bad as Lebron's 2015 playoffs??

41.7% FG
48.7% TS
105 ORtg
0.173 WS/48

I'd be surprised if Elgin, Dirk, or Isiah did as well.

Kobe 2004
41.3% FG
50.6% TS
103 ORtg
0.145 WS/48

Bird 1982
42.7% FG
47.4% TS
103 ORtg
0.154 WS/48

Baylor 1969
38.5% FG
43.0% TS
NA 0Rtg
0.067 WS/48

Dirk 2005
40.2% FG
50.5% TS
109 ORtg
0.104 WS/48

Isiah 1989 (championship season)
41.2% FG
48.1% TS
108 ORtg
0.135 WS/48

[kamil]

1-9

Aka, damage control.

[3ball]

Lebron 2015
41.7% FG
48.7% TS
105 ORtg
0.173 WS/48

Kobe 2004
41.3% FG
50.6% TS
103 ORtg
0.145 WS/48

Bird 1982
42.7% FG
47.4% TS
103 ORtg
0.154 WS/48

Baylor 1969
38.5% FG
43.0% TS
NA 0Rtg
0.067 WS/48

Dirk 2005
40.2% FG
50.5% TS
109 ORtg
0.104 WS/48

Isiah 1989 (championship season)
41.2% FG
48.1% TS
108 ORtg
0.135 WS/48

Wow.. That's amazing how many sub-par playoff runs these guys had.

So it's pretty clear then - MJ literally towers above all these guys - he's never had a playoff run anywhere near as bad as these guys - like, the gap is massive..

He wouldn't belong within a 10 foot barge pole of that hideous list.. Pretty amazing

[red1]

Kobe 2004
41.3% FG
50.6% TS
103 ORtg
0.145 WS/48

Bird 1982
42.7% FG
47.4% TS
103 ORtg
0.154 WS/48

Baylor 1969
38.5% FG
43.0% TS
NA 0Rtg
0.067 WS/48

Dirk 2005
40.2% FG
50.5% TS
109 ORtg
0.104 WS/48

Isiah 1989 (championship season)
41.2% FG
48.1% TS
108 ORtg
0.135 WS/48

3ball getting sonned for the millionth time. what's new

[red1]

Thread Cliffs:

Lebron's 2015 playoff averages shown below are beneath MJ and far worse than MJ's worst playoff run:

41.7% FG
48.7% TS
105 ORtg
0.173 WS/48
.

this retard edited his post

[ShawkFactory]

Wow.. That's amazing how many sub-par playoff runs these guys had.

So it's pretty clear then - MJ literally towers above all these guys - he's never had a playoff run anywhere near as bad as these guys - like, the gap is massive..

He wouldn't belong within a 10 foot barge pole of that hideous list.. Pretty amazing

[LAZERUSS]

We saw what MJ did when he had a supporting cast that was as bad as Lebron's was in the 2015 Finals...he and his team were swept in the first round.

The '87 Celtics were a team on the decline, going 59-23, but they held MJ to .417 shooting, and swept MJ's Bulls. MJ had Charles Oakley and his 20 ppg, 15 rpg series, as well...and he still couldn't win a game.

BTW, Lebron's second best teammate was in the '15 Finals was JR Smith, who took, BY FAR, the most FGAs of any teammate...and he shot .326 (which was miles better than Delladova and Shumpert...who shot .283 and .256.)

[Rose'sACL]

It is pretty amazing that a guy can take 26 shots per game with historically bad inefficiency and historically bad jump-shooting and get about 1/10th of the criticism that certain other guys have faced...and many of those other guys were much more efficient. Of course the LeBron stans will point out that he does more outside scoring and point out his rebouding and assist numbers and it's a good point, but the problem is that rebouding and assist numbers aren't really as impressive as they appear at first glance. guy is the king of inflated stats.

He had way better stats than kobe did in 2010 finals.

[andgar923]

2015 Playoff Stats:


41.7% FG

48.7% TS

105 ORtg

0.173 WS/48


Since when is Iverson-ball respected or lauded?

It's eye-popping how much lower these stats are than MJ's worst playoff run, and various other stars as well.

It's a testament to the weakness of his conference that these pathetic numbers succeed in getting a weak supporting cast to the Finals.. Those stats would NEVER work in another era - if MJ put up these numbers for an entire playoff run, he'd have gotten destroyed in his Eastern Conference and by the Pistons, rather than the competitive series his vastly superior stats allowed.

It's just like when Lebron's 25 ppg on 44% took the Cavs past the old, decrepit Pistons in 2007 - those would equal the worst stats of MJ's entire playoff career - but that shit WORKED to get Lebron past the Pistons..

This is what Durant and company think about the East:

He gets props because people are stat whores that only judge a player based on stats and not actual play.

Most people with half a brain can see his stats are misleading.

What actually amazes me the most is the fact that standards for him are so low that he gets lauded for going all out.

Seriously?

He gets praised for trying to f*ckin win (even tho he rested on defense).

Pathetic

[Lebron23]

We saw what MJ did when he had a supporting cast that was as bad as Lebron's was in the 2015 Finals...he and his team were swept in the first round.

The '87 Celtics were a team on the decline, going 59-23, but they held MJ to .417 shooting, and swept MJ's Bulls. MJ had Charles Oakley and his 20 ppg, 15 rpg series, as well...and he still couldn't win a game.

BTW, Lebron's second best teammate was in the '15 Finals was JR Smith, who took, BY FAR, the most FGAs of any teammate...and he shot .326 (which was miles better than Delladova and Shumpert...who shot .283 and .256.)

This

Oakley was better than Smith. Charles averaged 21 ppg, and 15 rpg. Jordan was completely shutdown by the Celtics defense. Thanks for the posts. They can check Jordan stats here.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...s-celtics.html

[andgar923]

Bron defenders don't get it.

People shit on his fg% because he was literally playing one on one for the majority of the series.

People say his performance was misleading because he dominated the ball like no other.

People make fun of him due to his exaggerated and obvious demonstration of being fatigued.

And people in general laugh at how badly he played defense, how a bench player that he was guarding and guarded him won MVP.

There are many reasons why he gets shitted on.

Taking great player's stats out of thin air doesn't change shit.

[andgar923]

This

Oakley was better than Smith. Charles averaged 21 ppg, and 15 rpg. Jordan was completely shutdown by the Celtics defense. Thanks for the posts. They can check Jordan stats here.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...s-celtics.html

Aside from some clips did you watch the series?

Go ahead and lie and say you did, nobody will believe you anyway