Who's Better? Part 1: Michael Jordan vs. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

[DaHeezy]

This kind of shit really shows how little some people at ISH understand basketball. This is the height of ignorance. So much so that is beyond a waste of time to actually refute it. Enjoy another thread of discrediting one player with a monster resume to lift another player up. Yawn.

Agree. Especially when some says "it's not even close". Extremely close minded.

[RRR3]

Wait, Why isn't Brian Scalabrine in the conversation?

We're talking about humans, not Gods. It's unfair to include Scal, because there's nobody to compare him to.

[ThaRegul8r]

Russell imo struggled as player coach his first 2 seasons, and he was carried a lot in 68 & 69 by Havlicek and Sam Jones. That's no shame or knock on Russell whatsoever. His legs went a lot of miles in a short time when you figure things like 25+ exhibition games each year, and can you even imagine being player coach!!

Russell struggled his first season trying to balance coaching and playing

[Asukal]

Do we really have to compare? MJ is better. Kareem despite all his dominance couldn't win without another GOAT candidate. If Magic didn't come along, Kareem would have only one ring and Bird would be the GOAT.

[La Frescobaldi]

nah I don't go by points, why would you when a guy is a defensive specialist?

But I still stand by what I said about Sam and Hondo those last couple seasons. Russell was still great, but he didn't do ALL the intimidating on that 35% shooting. Sanders still played great D, and the Celtics perimeter defense was powerful.

Even in Sam's last year he was so underrated. It'd make you vomit to look at the papers and see him not even mentioned. All he had to do was guard guys like Logo, Oscar, Frazier, Jack Marin, Pearl......

[Duncan21formvp]

MJ , Russell and Kareem are top 3. I have MJ #1 because he has the accolades, titles, stats and productivity and won all his titles as the best in the league but Russ and Kareem are breathing on his neck.

[ThaRegul8r]

MJ , Russell and Kareem are top 3. I have MJ #1 because he has the accolades, titles, stats and productivity and won all his titles as the best in the league but Russ and Kareem are breathing on his neck.

You always say this, but then you make it abundantly clear that you don't actually think it's close.

[Duncan21formvp]

You always say this, but then you make it abundantly clear that you don't actually think it's close.

No it's close, but I make the case of why the other is ahead barely.

[Smoke117]

The OP has 34.85 posts per day,

So? He likes discussing basketball, what's wrong with that. Probably better than how you spend most of your time at the computer with your hand down your pants.

[ThaRegul8r]

MJ , Russell and Kareem are top 3. I have MJ #1 because he has the accolades, titles, stats and productivity and won all his titles as the best in the league but Russ and Kareem are breathing on his neck.

You always say this, but then you make it abundantly clear that you don't actually think it's close.

No it's close, but I make the case of why the other is ahead barely.

False. I've seen you shred both of the other two as most proponents of players do to potential challengers to whatever player they support, showing that you don't actually "they're breathing on his neck," but make the politically correct statement that it is, even though it's not what you actually believe (as your actions have demonstrated, which speak louder than words).

[ballsohard247]

So? He likes discussing basketball, what's wrong with that. Probably better than how you spend most of your time at the computer with your hand down your pants.

[Asukal]

So? He likes discussing basketball, what's wrong with that. Probably better than how you spend most of your time at the computer with your hand down your pants.

repped

EDIT: LOL! I can't rep you anymore.

[The Iron Fist]

Kareem
6 rings
4 mvps in his first seven years, 6 total
3 straight NCAA titles with 3 straight Most Outstanding Player awards
3 straight NYC titles at Power Memorial


Dominated at every level, from the moment he stepped on the court. Impacted his teams in a much bigger way than Jordan did and won titles in two different eras.

[Asukal]

Dominated at every level, from the moment he stepped on the court. Impacted his teams in a much bigger way than Jordan did and won titles in two different eras.

Dominated every level except championship level. He won in 71 plus FMVP and never again until 80 despite being far away the best player in the league during that era. When Magic came he won 5 more titles, but only 1 fmvp during the showtime lakers era. What exactly did he do better than Jordan apart from being MVP king of the 70s?

[Lebron23]

Michael Jordan

6x NBA Champion as the Undisputed Leader of his team
6x NBA Finals MVP
5x NBA Regular Season MVP
10x NBA Scoring Champion