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    Default Was the 2004 pistons the only team to win a championship without....

    A top 100 player???? The closest of course would be billups, but truthfully he is not a top 100. That is remarkable if that's the case and that team truly needs to be examined for formula for success.

    They might actually be in the consideration for best TEAM of all time. There's noooooo way they could've pulled that off without playing Like a true unit

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    Default Re: Was the 2004 pistons the only team to win a championship without....

    Their unity on defense helped them become one of the greatest teams.

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    Default Re: Was the 2004 pistons the only team to win a championship without....

    The Wallaces is a top 100 player.

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    Default Re: Was the 2004 pistons the only team to win a championship without....

    Rasheed Wallace is currently ranked #95 all-time on basketball-reference.com. Just saying.

    At Sheed's peak, he could have been confused for a future Hall Of Famer.

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    Default Re: Was the 2004 pistons the only team to win a championship without....

    No top 100 player ever, but 4 top 200 players certainly helped.

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    Default Re: Was the 2004 pistons the only team to win a championship without....

    Ben Wallace & Rasheed. IMO Ben Wallace easily cracks that 90-100 range.

    He had like 5-6 years of being a GOAT defensive player

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    Default Re: Was the 2004 pistons the only team to win a championship without....

    According to GOAT:

    Ben Wallace is #69 all time and Mutombo isn't in the top 100

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    Default Re: Was the 2004 pistons the only team to win a championship without....

    Quote Originally Posted by ProfessorMurder
    According to GOAT:

    Ben Wallace is #62 all time and Mutombo isn't in the top 100

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    Default Re: Was the 2004 pistons the only team to win a championship without....

    That's because Ben Wallace is a better player than Mutombo though.

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    Default Re: Was the 2004 pistons the only team to win a championship without....

    Quote Originally Posted by INDI
    A top 100 player???? The closest of course would be billups, but truthfully he is not a top 100. That is remarkable if that's the case and that team truly needs to be examined for formula for success.

    They might actually be in the consideration for best TEAM of all time. There's noooooo way they could've pulled that off without playing Like a true unit
    If you want to examine the formula for future use then I'd disagree. The fact that this is the only team of recent memory to pull it off backs that up. The usual formula for success was 2 (now 3) superstars+good role players.

    But they were a hella great team with good D.

    I don't think it can be duplicated anymore. Their back to back finals appearances made sure David Stern revamp the rules to create manufactured superstars.

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    Default Re: Was the 2004 pistons the only team to win a championship without....

    They didn't have a superstar, but they had legit pieces and a closer, thats all you need to win.

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    Default Re: Was the 2004 pistons the only team to win a championship without....

    Quote Originally Posted by gasolina
    If you want to examine the formula for future use then I'd disagree. The fact that this is the only team of recent memory to pull it off backs that up. The usual formula for success was 2 (now 3) superstars+good role players.
    The Mavs in 11 only had one star. And a ****loads of roleplayers stepping it up.

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    Default Re: Was the 2004 pistons the only team to win a championship without....

    Quote Originally Posted by Punpun
    That's because Ben Wallace is a better player than Mutombo though.


    Literally the only thing Wallace did that Mutombo didn't do (or do better) was win 1 championship.

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    Default Re: Was the 2004 pistons the only team to win a championship without....

    There main strength was there defence. You had rasheed wallace, and ben wallace there.. wallace house..

    The rasheed wallace trade changed everything for them.

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    Default Re: Was the 2004 pistons the only team to win a championship without....

    Quote Originally Posted by ProfessorMurder


    Literally the only thing Wallace did that Mutombo didn't do (or do better) was win 1 championship.
    That's enough.

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