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National High School Star
Pippen or Kawhi???!
Who will end up being considered a better player from age 24 to 33 (their peak/prime)?
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NBA Legend
Re: Pippen or Kawhi???!
Kawhi. I have faith in Pop, the Spurs, and in his work ethic and dedication. He is only going to get better and he will really blossom in the next few years.
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Raps
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Gif-ted
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College star
Re: Pippen or Kawhi???!
Really liking what I'm seeing from Kawhi so far this season... Looks like he really improved his game, hope he keeps it that way... Dude's a stud already, and I wouldn't be TOO surprised if he has a better prime than Scottie, tht's pretty difficult though so let's see...
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SexLand
Re: Pippen or Kawhi???!
Wonder what 3ball thinks about this. I am sure he'll foresee us with an objective analysis.
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with God-given ass
Re: Pippen or Kawhi???!
How long is Pop going to coach? Kiwi to 33 is what? Another 9 years. Pop turns 67 in a couple months. He's probably going to die in the next 9 years, tbh. 76 is old as ****.
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I don't get picked last at the park anymore
Re: Pippen or Kawhi???!
1e year :
S.Pippen : 7.9pts 3.8rbs 2.1ast 1.2stl
K.Leonard : 7.9pts 5.1rbs 1.1ast 1.3stl
2y :
S.Pippen : 14.4pts 6.1rbs 3.5 ast 1.9stl
K.Leonard :11.9pts 6.0rbs 1.6ast 1.7stl
3y :
S.Pippen : 16.5pts 6.7rbs 5.4ast 2.6stl
K.Leonard : 12.8pts 6.2rbs 2.0ast 1.7stl
4y :
S.Pippen : 17.8pts 7.3rbs 6.2ast 2.4stl
K.Leonard : 16.5pts 7.2rbs 2.5ast 2.3stl
5y :
S.Pippen : 21.0pts 7.7rbs 7.0ast 1.9stl
K.Leonard : 22.1pts 7.6rbs 1.1ast 2.0stl
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... on a leash
Re: Pippen or Kawhi???!
Kawhi will go down top 25
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The Beast In Me
Re: Pippen or Kawhi???!
Depends on Kawhi's trajectory. Despite what the stat watchers are saying, Kawhi's not actually playing better than he was last year (especially offensively), so if he's only going to get marginally better than he is now, it's Pippen.
That said, I could easily see Kawhi taking another leap in his development which would put him in a class few have matched (like AW said, if he does improve even further and plays like it for a good decade, somewhere around the top twenty-five isn't overshooting it at all).
Pop hasn't made Kawhi though. Kawhi is the one who made improvements, with the help of Ime Udoka (Kawhi and Danny's defensive coach) and Chip Engelland (shooting coach legend). He'll still be who he is after Pop is gone (which'll be around 2020).
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Embiid > Jokic
Re: Pippen or Kawhi???!
Originally Posted by Uncle Drew
Wonder what 3ball thinks about this. I am sure he'll foresee us with an objective analysis.
I always rely on 3ball for objective analysis. People who think Pippen isn't a top 100 player of all time are reliable sources of information
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College star
Re: Pippen or Kawhi???!
One area which I think that Kawhi's never even getting that close to Pippen, though... is playmaking/passing. And that's very important, ofc.
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Re: Pippen or Kawhi???!
Kawhi will not come within sniffing distance of Pippen. the only thing he has over scottie is the FMVP which was really a gift considering no one on the spurs really outstanding numbers, it was a team effort & of course they were against a lebron led team.
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NBA Legend
Re: Pippen or Kawhi???!
Originally Posted by gcvbcat
Kawhi will not come within sniffing distance of Pippen. the only thing he has over scottie is the FMVP which was really a gift considering no one on the spurs really outstanding numbers, it was a team effort & of course they were against a lebron led team.
Scottie blew his chance at a finals mvp by having a meltdown.
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Re: Pippen or Kawhi???!
Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
Kawhi will go down top 25
Sure.
Just like Jason Terry and Andre Iguodala.
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