Post your best ten defensive players of all-time

[Cold soul]

In no order for me.
Tim Duncan
Bill Russell
Hakeem
Wilt
David Robinson
Kevin Garnett
Ben Wallace
Kareem
Gary Payton
Dennis Rodman

There few guys that could be added that I didn't name.

[kennethgriffin]

Kobe over Robinson and Duncan...that's just adorable. There isn't one coach, gm, or active/former player that wouldn't laugh in your face if you told them that nonsense. The fact that you actually believe it is baffling.

thats only because of a team thought process for value/need and starting a team with big men because of a preconceived notion


fact is that my list is based on skill


and even popovich said kobe was more talented at defense




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liIYL7YcePI


"I THINK HE'S"



"THE MOST TALENTED"



"PLAYER"


"ON BOTH ENDS"



- Greg Popovich 2005-06 season

[kennethgriffin]

In no order for me.
Tim Duncan
Bill Russell
Hakeem
Wilt
David Robinson
Kevin Garnett
Ben Wallace
Kareem
Gary Payton
Dennis Rodman

There few guys that could be added that I didn't name.

so you have the 3 other guys with the all time record 9 first team all defensive awards

Payton/Jordan/Garnett


but not Kobe ( the 4th man sharing the ALL TIME NBA RECORD )


go figure

[Dr Hawk]

thats only because of a team thought process for value/need and starting a team with big men because of a preconceived notion


fact is that my list is based on skill


and even popovich said kobe was more talented at defense




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liIYL7YcePI


"I THINK HE'S"



"THE MOST TALENTED"



"PLAYER"


"ON BOTH ENDS"



- Greg Popovich 2005-06 season

Problem is your list is based on skill and nothing else. Talent with no effort doesn't work. Kobe when focused on defense was a beast, but sadly, he didn't do that much. That's why he is not even close to making a Top 10 defense list.

He is below Jordan, who didn't make my list

[stalkerforlife]

so you have the 3 other guys with the all time record 9 first team all defensive awards

Payton/Jordan/Garnett


but not Kobe ( the 4th man sharing the ALL TIME NBA RECORD )


go figure

[kennethgriffin]

Problem is your list is based on skill and nothing else. Talent with no effort doesn't work. Kobe when focused on defense was a beast, but sadly, he didn't do that much. That's why he is not even close to making a Top 10 defense list.

He is below Jordan, who didn't make my list

kobe had 1st team all nba defensive level with effort in

2000
2001
2002
2003
2004
2006
2007
2008
2009
2010


then injuries hit in 2011 and he was gifted his last 2 awards


but isnt a decade worth of elite defense enough? thats still equal or better than most anyone else

[zeerghit]

so you have the 3 other guys with the all time record 9 first team all defensive awards

Payton/Jordan/Garnett


but not Kobe ( the 4th man sharing the ALL TIME NBA RECORD )


go figure

its friday.. and u still all about kobe, pathetic.

[kennethgriffin]

its friday.. and u still all about kobe, pathetic.

its 10am




come see me in 12 hours

[Smoke117]

thats only because of a team thought process for value/need and starting a team with big men because of a preconceived notion


fact is that my list is based on skill


and even popovich said kobe was more talented at defense




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liIYL7YcePI


"I THINK HE'S"



"THE MOST TALENTED"



"PLAYER"


"ON BOTH ENDS"



- Greg Popovich 2005-06 season

Putting Kobe above guys like Rasheed Wallace and Larry Nance would be a joke, but putting Kobe above Robinson and Duncan? That just leads me believe you have some form of autism. You are perceived by what you actually do and All four of those guys I just named did much more on the court defensively than Kobe did. The first thing that matters when it comes to defense is effort...and Kobe rarely put forth a consistent effort season to season. He was a very good one on one defensive player (though prone to over playing) when he wanted to be...but that was rare indeed. As a help/team defensive player he's average at best and he was never some great leader on the defensive end. Maybe you should enlighten us on all these defensive skills he has? I think we would all enjoy a good laugh.

[feyki]

over? i dont think hes top 10

He is best perimeter defender in nba history after Payton . You should more search about him .

[AirFederer]

1. Russell
2. Wilt - The GOAT rim protector and games greatest shot-blocker.

And Thurmond was the greatest one-on-one defending center of all-time (Chamberlain was right behind him.)

Rumors say Wilt didnt protect the rim all that well

In no particular order
MJ
Pip
Duncan
Russell
Ben
D12
T Prince
Hakeem
Rodman
Mutombo

[DavisIsMyUniBro]

Primes.

1. Ben Wallace
2. David Robinson
3. Hakeem Olajuwon
4. Kevin Garnett
5. Bill Russell
6. Tim Duncan
7. Dikembe Mutombo
8. Rodman
9. Ewing
10. Pippen

Russell should be first by a ridiculous margin.

The rest of it is actually solid. not my personal one, but its opinion. Pippen shouldnt touch the list at all for sure though. Thumond should probably be on the list. Wilt as well, though I definately agree with your top 5/6, in a different order though

[ShawkFactory]

So Kobe is a better perimeter defender than Cooper, Moncrief, Payton, Artest, and Bowen?

Gotcha.

[Harison]

1. Bill Russell
2. Kevin Garnett
3. Hakeem Olajuwon
4. David Robinson
5. Dennis Rodman
6. Tim Duncan
7. Dikembe Mutombo
8. Ben Wallace
9. Nate Thurmond
10. Scottie Pippen

Wings impact on D is lesser than big mans by default, thats why the list is dominated by C/PF. Its not a slight against wings, its just how basketball works.

Hon. mention: Wilt, Bobby Jones, Jordan, Cooper, Frazier, Moncrief, Glove, Stockton, prime Kobe, Dwight, etc.

[ClipperRevival]

I don't consider Ewing as a GOAT level defender. He was great but a tier below the true GOATs like Russell, Hakeem, etc.