If u were starting a franchise which one would u draft: lebron or hakeem

[BlackVVaves]

Only a LeBron stan would say something as foolish as "easily LeBron."

It's as close as could be, neither is "clearly" better than the other, and Hakeem is certainly higher than LeBron on the All-Time list presently.

[RaininTwos]

Only a LeBron stan would say something as foolish as "easily LeBron."

It's as close as could be, neither is "clearly" better than the other, and Hakeem is certainly higher than LeBron on the All-Time list presently.

I was clearly joking, people here are so sensitive.

[RaininTwos]

Exactly... nevermind the fact that he won back to back titles vs great competition with a squad similar to what Lebron had to work with in Cleveland if not worse. Hakeem is the clear pick here. Lebron will probably achieve more since he plays with a loaded squad but I would draft Hakeem and put better talent around him and win 5-6 rings.

Facts aren't made up bro.

Dude played with Sam Cassell, Drexler, Robert Horry, Kenny Smith, Otis Thorpe, Vernon Maxwell, etc... during those back to back titles.

How is that worse or even with what Lebron had in Cleveland?

[DFish]

Facts aren't made up bro.

Dude played with Sam Cassell, Drexler, Robert Horry, Kenny Smith, Otis Thorpe, Vernon Maxwell, etc... during those back to back titles.

How is that worse or even with what Lebron had in Cleveland?

Ben Wallace, Big Z, Varejao, Shaq, Gooden, Mo, Jamison, Parker, West, Hickson, Szczerbiak.

[D.J.]

You build around big men, especially one that was dominant, versatile, and smooth as Hakeem. When comparing a superstar perimeter player to a superstar big man, the only time you should be taking the perimeter player is when it's Michael Jordan. Skilled big men are much more rare and valuable than a skilled perimeter player.

[RaininTwos]

Ben Wallace, Big Z, Varejao, Shaq, Gooden, Mo, Jamison, Parker, West, Hickson, Szczerbiak.

[red1]

Ben Wallace, Big Z, Varejao, Shaq, Gooden, Mo, Jamison, Parker, West, Hickson, Szczerbiak.

[red1]

half of these guys were terrible on the cavs

[ducktape]

lebron and make sure he doesn't become an ass of himself

[Deuce Bigalow]

LOL

Hakeem the Dream EASILY

Lebron James
'07 NBA Finals: 22-7-7 on 36%, outscored by Tony Parker, Swept
'11 NBA Finals: 18-7-7 on 48%, 3 ppg 4th Quarter, outscored by Chris Bosh and Jason Terry

2009-2011: 3 straight playoff series loses with HCA

Let's not compare Lebron to an top 10 all-time great

[ducktape]

LOL

Hakeem the Dream EASILY

Lebron James
'07 NBA Finals: 22-7-7 on 36%, outscored by Tony Parker, Swept
'11 NBA Finals: 18-7-7 on 48%, 3 ppg 4th Quarter, outscored by Chris Bosh and Jason Terry

2009-2011: 3 straight playoff series loses with HCA

Let's not compare Lebron to an top 10 all-time great

where's the stats from the '12 nba finals?

[Asukal]

Hakeem. He won 2 without much help, God knows how many he can win with a great team.

[Jimmy2k8]

Facts aren't made up bro.

Dude played with Sam Cassell, Drexler, Robert Horry, Kenny Smith, Otis Thorpe, Vernon Maxwell, etc... during those back to back titles.

How is that worse or even with what Lebron had in Cleveland?

Hakeem also played on a 47 win squad in 1995 and won with a roster as talented as Lebron's Cavs.
And won the championship in 95 as well.
Something that Lebron was never able to do without 2 other top 5 players.

[get these NETS]

And lebron terrible play had nothing to do with cavs losing?

i remember lebron having to wear 2 superman capes against spurs...attempting to do more than he did for that team..

lebron is great, but neither he nor iverson can single handedly beat a great team in finals


any terrible play by lebron was due to realization that it was 5 against 1

[millwad]

Facts aren't made up bro.

Dude played with Sam Cassell, Drexler, Robert Horry, Kenny Smith, Otis Thorpe, Vernon Maxwell, etc... during those back to back titles.

How is that worse or even with what Lebron had in Cleveland?

Are we supposed to be impressed by Hakeem teammates during the back-to-back?

In '94 the Rockets second best scorer in the playoffs was Vernon Maxwell who averaged 13.8 points on terrible 38% shooting.

And you can't mix two rosters together, in '94 there was no Drexler and in '95 there was no Maxwell and Thorpe.

Sam Cassell was a rookie and a second year pro, no where close to his prime but still was a good player.

Kenny Smith was garbage, he got outplayed by every point guard he faced in the playoffs during both years, impressive..

Maxwell was a chucker.

Hakeem didn't need no Wade or Bosh to win, TWICE.