Rank these shooting guards in overall talent

[Mass Debator]

Manu Ginobili
Reggie Miller
Jerry Stackhouse
Mitch Richmond
Joe Dumars
Michael Redd
Ray Allen
Monta Ellis
James Harden
Brandon Roy

[navy]

Define talent.

[Mass Debator]

Define talent.

Ability to score, pass, defend, rebound, and lead. Basically everything besides defining someone's career with team success and accolades or lack thereof.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Havent watched a few of these guys but Allen, Ginobili, and Miller come to mind at the top 3 in no order. Ellis and Roy are more athletic, and Harden is an excellent slasher but his D is just so putrid.

[SugarHill]

I just know Manu is at the top and Redd is at the bottom.

[Mass Debator]

I just know Manu is at the top and Redd is at the bottom.

Do you think Manu could have averaged 24 ppg on 45% in a 6 year span?

[Pointguard]

Manu Ginobili
Reggie Miller
Jerry Stackhouse
Mitch Richmond
Joe Dumars
Michael Redd
Ray Allen
Monta Ellis
James Harden
Brandon Roy

Brandon Roy - remember when he would do everything
Harden - can play PG and SF the two most demanding of talent positions
Ginobli - best passer, 2nd best defender, skilled penetrator
Mitch Richmond - could pass, rebound, drive, dribble, was big, strong, smart
Dumars - could be called on to do every guard duty well and lead
Stackhouse - hated his game but he did do a lot of different things on the court
Ray Allen - flirted with playing the point at one time.
Monta Ellis - seeing more dimensions of his game recently
Reggie Miller - could really run around a screen, now couldn't he!
Michael Redd - was a great scorer the first month of the season. A unique talent that just faded as the season progressed.

[Milbuck]

Manu. GOAT SG.

[Mass Debator]

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Damn nice list. I like the Roy pick. Would your order still be roughly the same if I said to rank them by impact?

[Mass Debator]

Manu. GOAT SG.

Love his game especially his high risk high reward mentality. Super creative at everything that he did...but is he even considered better than the Spurs' very own Gervin?

[Dro]

Ginobili
Allen
Harden
Roy
Richmond
Ellis
Miller
Redd
Dumars
Stackhouse

[bizil]

Manu Ginobili
Reggie Miller
Jerry Stackhouse
Mitch Richmond
Joe Dumars
Michael Redd
Ray Allen
Monta Ellis
James Harden
Brandon Roy

To me the gold standard of perimeter guys are guys who are great scorers, great passers, very good-great rebounders for perimeter guys, and great defenders in one. And if they have the versatility to play PG, SG, and SF, that's the ultimate bonus. So looking at this list, Brandon Roy or Manu is the best all around talent. Harden is right there, but his defense leave something to be desired often.

In terms of who I think flat out is the best player, GOAT wise it's Ray Allen. In general, I think the best player of the bunch is Ray or Harden. But if he would have stayed healthy, I think Roy would have been the best.

[FKAri]

Pretty sure I'd have Mitch Richmond over Harden. I don't know how good of a playmaker Brandon Roy was but he's near the top. Ginobli did everything but could he do it in a more featured role consistently? He would be near the top tho. Ray Allen would also be near the top.

This is tough...

[bizil]

Pretty sure I'd have Mitch Richmond over Harden. I don't know how good of a playmaker Brandon Roy was but he's near the top. Ginobli did everything but could he do it in a more featured role consistently? He would be near the top tho. Ray Allen would also be near the top.

This is tough...

I agree! None of these guys are on that MJ-Kobe-West-Wade-TMac-Drexler kind of level at SG. So the OP came up with a great post. U can go a lot of ways in this equation. For example, I think Richmond has the best scoring skillset of all these guys on the list. He was a pure shooter and great slasher who was as strong as a bull posting up. Peak Stackhouse was a freakish athlete who had a very good scoring skillset. And from a two way standpoint, Dumars is arguably one of the top 6-7 SG's of all time. Other than MJ, Kobe, West, Wade, and Moncrief, his name HAS to come up soon in that regard.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Manu
Roy
Ray
Richmond
Harden
Reggie
Dumars
Redd
Stackhouse
Monta