If you hate the media comparisons of Kobe to MJ

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

then you better HOPE that Kobe does not win his second 3-peat.

Thus, you should be hoping that Team Diva DOES happen, so as to thwart that 3-peat.

[ginobli2311]

then you better HOPE that Kobe does not win his second 3-peat.

Thus, you should be hoping that Team Diva DOES happen, so as to thwart that 3-peat.

really?

team diva or the mega team already happened. they are called the lakers coached by phil jackson.

kobe/gasol/bynum/artest/fisher/odom with the greatest coach ever

LOL......got to love laker fans already trying to prop up other teams and diminish their own mega team.

[PowerGlove]

They wont reach the finals next year.


Book it!!!

So, no need for comparisons.
[COLOR="White"]this will be quoted often.[/COLOR]

[SinJackal]

really?

team diva or the mega team already happened. they are called the lakers coached by phil jackson.

kobe/gasol/bynum/artest/fisher/odom with the greatest coach ever

LOL......got to love laker fans already trying to prop up other teams and diminish their own mega team.

Didn't you know? Kobe's the only real player on the Lakers! Without him, they're a sub .500 team. /sarcasim



Considering that MJ still destroys Kobe in career averages, doing more with less, defensive ability, scoring titles, MVPs, and prestige, Kobe will NEVER be considered better than Jordan even if Kobe wins more titles than him. That is, unless Kobe flips a switch and magically becomes 20% better than he is now for the next five years.

Damn near everyone who dares to consider Kobe to be better than MJ did not watch MJ play outside of highlight videos or less than a handful of ESPN classic reruns of old finals games.

When you compare and contrast, MJ kills him in every single way, besides perhaps three point shooting. Kobe has an edge there. . .but is inferior in every other conceivable way.

[G.O.A.T.]

really?

team diva or the mega team already happened. they are called the lakers coached by phil jackson.

kobe/gasol/bynum/artest/fisher/odom with the greatest coach ever

LOL......got to love laker fans already trying to prop up other teams and diminish their own mega team.

its all about the context man

[Fatal9]

kobe/gasol/bynum/artest/fisher/odom with the greatest coach ever

You realize Bynum has been useless the last two years in the playoff runs right?

Bynum:
6.3 ppg, 3.7 rpg, as many turnovers as blocks in the 2009 run.
8.6 ppg, 6.9 rpg in 2010 run (and his stats are helped by the Thunder series where he wasn't as slowed down by injuries)
These are Luc Longley numbers.

Fisher:
8/2/2 on 39 FG%, 29% 3 pt shooting in 2009 run.
10/3/3 on 44% shooting in 2010 run.
Not to mention he is one of the worst defensive PGs in the league.

Artest:
11/4/2 on 39.8% and 29% 3 pt shooting. Huge offensive liability whose defense wasn't nearly good enough after the Thunder series to make up for how much he was hurting the team offensively.

Bench: inconsistent Odom, Shannon Brown, Jordan Farmar

@ mega team. Maybe if Bynum was healthy but he's done next to nothing in the last two playoff runs.

[Allstar24]

If Lebron+Bosh or Lebron+(insert all-star player) can't win a championship or reach the finals, his legacy would take a major hit, no doubt about it. Kobe only needed one other star player (Gasol) to win. Hopefully Lebron gets a good teammate this year...no more excuses. I want to see if he can win given the ideal situation.

[TrueDiesel3]

@ mega team. Maybe if Bynum was healthy but he's done next to nothing in the last two playoff runs.

You're right, putting your damn career on the line for the 2010 Finals obviously means nothing. Not to mention their were games where Bynum did play quite well, at least in the first half.

[OldSchoolBBall]

I honestly don't think that LA can be beaten within the next two years (after which I feel Kobe's game will decline enough to make it possible) unless a team matches LA's size/length in the frontcourt. Two 7'1" trees with freakishly long arms and another 6'10"+ guy with even longer arms makes them a nightmare inside defensively and on the boards. It doesn't show up in the numbers in terms of blocked shots all the time, but in watching games it's incredibly apparent that LA's entire defense is predicated on their enormous size advantage -- guys just won't even try to challenge them inside and on the boards.

Until a team can match that, LA isn't being dethroned. Even Lebron/Wade/Bosh couldn't do it imo. Perimeter talent doesn't win championships, quality interior play and size does. That's something Kobe is very familiar with, having played with Shaq and now his ridiculous front line.

[Vragrant]

Well its a sad era for me for sure.

Thats why Im disappointed Phil Jackson is coming back. Depending on what happens in free agency the Lakers are the favourites to repeat, and the Jordan hype will be in full swing again. No one in the west is stopping them as I see it. I mean the Suns met them in the WCF

The way the East shakes out, Orlando is in disarray, Boston is only getting older, and the only shot is a revamped Bulls, Heat, or other rebuilt Eastern Conference squad that is loaded and in their prime.

Otherwise I dont see anybody stopping the freight train of the Lakers. They have the Hulk and Colossus on the front line with Gasol/Bynum. Too much talent, great coaching, championship experience and youth.

Funny thing is, Kobe will get all the credit. Difference between Jordan and Bryant is, I saw Jordan willing his team to titles whereas I see Kobe doing what he is supposed to be doing and winning with the most talent (the way he's won all his titles). Doesnt mean hes not a great player, but it doesnt make him Jordan either.

[alwaysunny]

Disagree. Amount of rings may equal, but other accomplishments is still on Jordan by landslide. I think comparison will get more serious when Kobe SURPASSES Jordan's rings with 7, which I can definitely see it happening.

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

really?

team diva or the mega team already happened. they are called the lakers coached by phil jackson.

kobe/gasol/bynum/artest/fisher/odom with the greatest coach ever

LOL......got to love laker fans already trying to prop up other teams and diminish their own mega team.

2 all-stars = mega team?
OK. if you think so.

[TROLL_HUNTER]

2 all-stars = mega team?
OK. if you think so.

1 superstar plus 1 elite allstar plus a great coach plus a bunch of good players (Odom, Artest, Bynum, when he plays...) In my book, that makes one hell of a team. Having 2 players who can carry the team when one of them is having a night off is a luxury most teams cannot afford. we have seen it many times throughout the season. As for the second three-peat is very likely but i fail to see how can still there be comparisons between Kobe and Jordan. Jordan was never second to anybody. In the first 3 rings Shaq was the clear main man and in the current run Kobe is the main one but not performing with the dominance Jordan produced let alone the fact hes not even been the best player in quite a few nights during the playoffs.

Its very funny you are counting on the number of rings hes got regardless what he does on the court which is what truly matters. Imagine a laboratory case: Shaq is back to LA and they win 2 more rings. Shaq is a starter but his production is pretty low, like the third player in the team. would you say he (Shaq) is any greater than what he has demonstrated so far because of those 2 late rings? the logical answer is no. Anyway, logic is being raped over and over in threads like this so no wonder...

[chazzy]

lol@ people not reading the thread title. MEDIA comparisons, you don't need to write paragraphs on why Jordan is better, it's inevitable the media circus will get ridiculous if he were to win number 6.

[OnceInADECADE]

You realize Bynum has been useless the last two years in the playoff runs right?

Bynum:
6.3 ppg, 3.7 rpg, as many turnovers as blocks in the 2009 run.
8.6 ppg, 6.9 rpg in 2010 run (and his stats are helped by the Thunder series where he wasn't as slowed down by injuries)
These are Luc Longley numbers.

Fisher:
8/2/2 on 39 FG%, 29% 3 pt shooting in 2009 run.
10/3/3 on 44% shooting in 2010 run.
Not to mention he is one of the worst defensive PGs in the league.

Artest:
11/4/2 on 39.8% and 29% 3 pt shooting. Huge offensive liability whose defense wasn't nearly good enough after the Thunder series to make up for how much he was hurting the team offensively.

Bench: inconsistent Odom, Shannon Brown, Jordan Farmar

@ mega team. Maybe if Bynum was healthy but he's done next to nothing in the last two playoff runs.

So u r telling me without Bynum Lakers are better. U are a dumb Bro. Bynum is needed on that squad big time REAL TALKS. He is like the second most important player on that roster.