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Lebron youngest to reach 26000 points
Also got into the top 20 all time in assists.
Not bad for a guy who according to ISH is probably the worst player in the league.
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Lebron is an excellent player, an all-time great even.. But he's far inferior to the GOAT.. Heck, even though MJ scored 5-10 ppg more than Lebron in the playoffs, he did so on equal or better efficiency while managing to average more assists in his prime and thru the same age than Lebron:
6-Year Prime - Per Game Playoffs:
JORDAN 1988-1993: 34.6 ppg.. 1.6 oreb.. 5.1 dreb.. [COLOR="darkred"]6.6 apg[/color].. 2.3 stl.. 0.9 blk.. 50.5 fg.. 58.3 ts.. 120 ORtg
LEBRON 2009-2014: 28.1 ppg.. 1.5 oreb.. 7.1 dreb.. [COLOR="darkred"]6.1 apg[/COLOR].. 1.8 stl.. 0.9 bpg.. 50.4 fg.. 59.9 ts.. 118 ORtg
6-Year Prime - Per 100 Possessions Playoffs:
JORDAN 1988-1993: 44.2 pts.. 2.0 oreb.. 6.6 dreb.. [COLOR="darkred"]8.5 ast[/COLOR].. 3.0 stl.. 1.2 blk.. 50.5 fg.. 58.3 ts.. 120 ORtg
LEBRON 2009-2014: 37.1 pts.. 2.0 oreb.. 9.3 dreb.. [COLOR="darkred"]8.1 ast[/COLOR].. 2.3 stl.. 1.2 blk.. 50.4 fg.. 59.9 ts.. 118 ORtg
Playoffs Thru Age 30:
Jordan: 34.7 ppg.. 1.6 oreb.. 5.1 dreb.. 6.6 apg.. 3.3 tov.. 2.3 spg.. 1.0 blk.. 50.1 fg.. 58.1 ts.. 119 ORtg
Lebron: 28.2 ppg.. 1.5 oreb.. 7.2 dreb.. 6.7 apg.. 3.5 tov.. 1.7 spg.. 0.9 blk.. 47.3 fg.. 56.5 ts.. 114 ORtg..
Finals Thru Age 30:
Jordan: 36.3 ppg.. 6.6 rpg.. 7.9 apg.. 3.4 tov.. 2.0 spg.. 0.76 bpg.. 52.6 fg
Lebron: 26.4 ppg.. 9.6 rpg.. 6.9 apg.. 4.0 tov.. 1.8 spg.. 0.54 bpg.. 44.6 fg
For their playoff and Finals careers, MJ averages 5-7 ppg more than Lebron with superior FG%, TS, and ORtg (that's all the efficiency measures).. Lebron has a tiny assist edge (no edge if you consider turnovers), but his edge will vanish as he gets older and reaches MJ's retirement age:
Career Playoffs:
Jordan: 33.4 ppg.. 1.7 oreb.. 4.7 dreb.. 5.7 apg.. 3.1 tov.. 2.1 spg.. 0.9 blk.. 48.7 fg.. 56.8 ts.. 118 ORtg
Lebron: 28.2 ppg.. 1.5 oreb.. 7.2 dreb.. 6.7 apg.. 3.5 tov.. 1.7 spg.. 0.9 blk.. 47.3 fg.. 56.5 ts.. 114 ORtg..
Career Finals:
Jordan: 33.6 ppg.. 6.0 rpg.. 6.0 apg.. 2.8 tov.. 1.8 spg.. 0.65 bpg.. 48.1 fg
Lebron: 26.4 ppg.. 9.6 rpg.. 6.9 apg.. 4.0 tov.. 1.8 spg.. 0.54 bpg.. 44.6 fg
[COLOR="DarkRed"]There's never been a #1 option that scored 5-10 ppg more on better efficiency and wasn't considered the FAR better player - this is especially true considering old Jordan scored a far higher proportion of his team's points than prime Lebron, especially in the 4th:[/COLOR]
[COLOR="White"]..........[/COLOR][COLOR="Red"]Percentage of team points scored while player was on floor[/COLOR]
[COLOR="White"]........................[/COLOR]RS[COLOR="White"].....[/COLOR]RS 4th[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR] PO[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR]PO 4th[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR]Finals[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] Finals 4th
JORDAN 1997.... 36.0..... 40.1..... 37.7..... 46.3...... 40.9...... 50.4
JORDAN 1998.... 36.3..... 42.1..... 39.7..... 48.8...... 43.6...... 49.1
LEBRON 2009.... 35.0..... 39.3..... 41.5..... 42.4
LEBRON 2010.... 34.6..... 44.4..... 32.6..... 40.3
LEBRON 2011.... 32.0..... 32.8..... 28.1..... 30.7...... 21.4...... 14.8
LEBRON 2012.... 34.2..... 33.8..... 34.5..... 34.9...... 30.0...... 33.3
LEBRON 2013.... 32.1..... 32.1..... 30.6..... 36.0...... 29.3...... 39.1
LEBRON 2014.... 33.1..... 38.2..... 35.3..... 32.1...... 39.6...... 29.5
LEBRON 2015.... 30.1..... 38.9..... 35.0..... 42.4...... 40.0...... 44.5
LEBRON 2016.... 33.4..... 40.9
Imagine if we had stats from MJ's prime...
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Last edited by 3ball; 01-30-2016 at 08:54 AM.
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Lord Olajuwon
Re: Lebron youngest to reach 26000 points
Originally Posted by 3ball
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[COLOR="Red"]WE ****ING KNOW FOR GOD'S SAKE[/COLOR]
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MJ vs. LBJ at 43,300 minutes (Lebron's minutes entering this season)
If we assume Jordan's 3000 college minutes translates to 1000 NBA minutes, that means Jordan reached 43,300 minutes right before the 1998 playoffs.
Here's Jordan's 1998 playoffs stats at 35 years old vs. Lebron's 2016 regular season stats at 30 years old:
[COLOR="Red"]MJ 1998 PLAYOFFS:. 32.4 ppg.. 1.6 oreb.. 3.8 dreb.. 3.5 apg.. 2.1 tov.. 1.5 spg.. 0.6 bpg.. 46.2 fg.. 54.5 ts.. 117 ORtg.. 28.1 PER[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Blue"]LBJ 2016 REG SEAS: 24.8 ppg.. 1.2 oreb.. 6.0 dreb.. 6.4 apg.. 3.2 tov.. 1.3 spg.. 0.7 bpg.. 50.6 fg.. 57.4 ts.. 114 ORtg.. 26.6 PER[/COLOR]
Btw, Lebron's body is only 30 years old, and therefore better equipped to handle 43k minutes than MJ's much older, 35-year old body... MJ had less prime explosion ability left at 35, than Lebron still has at 30.
Tbh, it's become too easy to demonstrate MJ's superiority to Lebron... From now on, I'm going to focus on Curry, since he can at least match some of MJ's offense and skill.
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Re: Lebron youngest to reach 26000 points
Does anyone else realize that this dude actually has this content saved, and ready to go... for a message board. He literally has statements typed up, and just copying and pasting all day.
Does anyone else not realize how sad this is?
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Re: Lebron youngest to reach 26000 points
Originally Posted by Nash
Also got into the top 20 all time in assists.
Not bad for a guy who according to ISH is probably the worst player in the league.
Not the worst player in the league. But definitely not the best either.
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NBA All-star
Re: Lebron youngest to reach 26000 points
Originally Posted by BuffaloBill
Not the worst player in the league. But definitely not the best either.
Absolutely, Curry is better.
But let's see about that when playoffs come around.
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I usually hit open layups
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